The World According To Bob

Bob Allen is a philosopher and cyber libertarian. He advocates for the basic human rights of men. Bob has learned to cut through the political nonsense, the propaganda hate, the surface discourse, and talk about the underlying metamessage that the front is hiding. Bob tells it like it is and lets the chips fall where they may. If you like what you read be sure to bookmark this blog and share it with your friends.

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Friday, April 02, 2010

Marriage, Morality, and Men

Anyone who sees any of the popular media recently cannot help but to have seen sex scandals involving Tiger Woods and Jesse James. Both men have hot babe wives but were getting laid on the side by more than one slut. Woods apparently was assaulted by his wife with a 9 iron as he tried to flee her wrath, and the broken cheek bone caused him to hit a tree instead of the driveway. Instead of filing a DV report against his wife, Woods apologized and enrolled in shrink “treatment.”

tiger-elin-woods
Tiger and Elin Woods


Jesse James wasn't injured but has publicly apologized. Jesse James is a “bad boy” biker who runs a motorcycle shop called West Coast Choppers. He was featured on a reality show called Monster Garage. Jesse is a distant relative of the infamous outlaw of the same name. His wife, Sandra Bullock, is a Hollywood star. Wimps apologize. Men claim their actions.

Jesse James and Mrs. James
Jesse and Sandra James


Were these men as bad as the popular (feminist) misandrist media would have us believe? Lets look at the marriage from historical, moral, and practical views. Most people today have a very confused understanding of marriage. For 160 years feminists have been waging war against marriage, pushing the lie that “marriage oppresses women.” The feminist goal is to have every female a lesbian. Gays have worked hard, supported by liberal media and politicians, to promote the myth that marriage is some list of government benefits given for “love.” Both groups falsely have claimed that marriage is a Christian invention. Some Christians say that you can only be married because of Jesus. But neither feminists nor gays nor Christians gives us truth.

Marriage is the biological union of a man and woman that makes a child and forms a family. In a very real physical sense the child is the marriage. The basic form of marriage has been part of every human culture, tribe, village, city, religion and nation since long before history. Marriage joins two families into one because the child has one foot in each family. Marriage produces the future of tribes and nations. Marriage is not about “love” but whom you breed with.

The oldest surviving written law code, the Code of Hammurabi, included extensive law on marriage. Marriage customs clearly were older than the written law. Every religion and every government has a strong interest in producing and raising the next generation. A few radical religions that have not supported marriage, the Shakers for example, have disappeared in one generation. Another ancient law code on marriage is Celtic law which was in force across much of Europe before the Roman conquest. In Celtic marriage law several “kinds” of marriage are listed depending on the wealth of the parents and who is supposed to pay to support the children. In the first kind of marriage both parents come from rich families and share the cost of raising the child. In the second kind of marriage the husband comes from a rich family and he will pay to raise the child. In the last kind of marriage the mother is a whore. She is solely responsible for raising the child.

Marriage is an important event for the whole tribe, village, and community. The families of both husband and wife gather to celebrate and witness the union of the two families. The religious leader of their faith gives his blessing. Vows are made and congratulations are given. The couple is then given a few days away from normal responsibility to have time for the sexual union that will consummate the marriage. In many places and times, in much of Europe for most of the past two millennia for example, the couple was only “betrothed” and doing sex together until a child was born. When the child is born the marriage is consummated and they are recognized as married by the community. If no child comes forth, the betrothal is annulled and the couple parts. Protestants and some Catholics are ascetic to the point that they frown on sex until a legal “marriage” but even there when there is no consummation the marriage can be annulled.

In many cultures, parents or families arrange marriages of sons and daughters. The western custom of inexperienced youth choosing mates for “love” (lust) is less than two centuries old. The long term success rates of arranged marriages is better than lust choices. A female's situation is quite different from the man's situation, so her needs in choosing a husband are quite different than his needs for a wife. A young female needs to have a man who is old enough and economically well established enough to support her and her children. A man needs a female who is young, healthy, and strong enough to bear and raise good children. For thousands of generations young females often chose men who were 10 or more years older than they are. There seems to be an evolutionary behavior of females to be sexually attracted to older men because of the long history of making this choice.

The vows in a traditional marriage are somewhat different for men and females.

The female promises:
1.To engage in sex with the husband, and husband ONLY, so that she may
2.Become pregnant by her husband, and then
3.To bear and raise his children. She also promises
4.To manage his house,
5.To assist in the work of the family as much as she is able while nurturing the children of the marriage
6.To remain his wife as long as the she and the children shall live.
7.To love, honor, and obey her husband.

The man promises:
1.To engage in sex with the female so that she may become pregnant and bear his children,
2.To support and protect her and his children to the best of his ability.
3.To retain her as his wife as long as he and the children live.
4.To provide guidance, leadership, discipline, and teaching for his wife and children as leader of the family.

In cultures where there are more than 1 wife, the first wife is also expected to manage the household and direct the work of the 2nd or subsequent wives. Note that only the female vows to limit her sexual experience because only she can bring other children to disrupt her marriage.

In Christian, Jewish, and Islamic holy writing the penalty for an adulterous wife is stoning to death. A wife's adultery is literally a matter of life an death. Similar teaching and penalties are common in many cultures and religions. A husband who administers the religious penalty on his wife for adultery, destroying his family, and stealing his children is a moral and virtuous man. So are any from the village who assist him. Feminazi thugs and gangsters who protect the unrighteous whore from her just punishment are immoral and should be shunned from the company of decent people.

Throughout all of history females have divided themselves into two classes, wives and whores. A wife limits her sexual activity to her husband so that her children are his children. In exchange for her restraint and obedience she receives his love, support, and protection. A whore is any female who turns away from the wife career, engaging in sex with a range of temporary “partners.” Often whores were “courtesans” who learned poetry, music, writing, and other education. Whores engage in sex for money, for favors, for manipulation and control, or just for lust. Whoring is sometimes called the oldest profession. It is where all the non-wives, feminists, lesbians, and other bad females spend their lives.

In moral (pre-feminist) legal codes a man is obligated ONLY to support the children he agreed to support, the children of his monogamous wife. He has no moral or ethical obligation to support bastards of a whore. She and she alone is responsible for their support. He may choose to claim his bastards, and may contribute to their support as he sees fit, but he has no moral or legal obligation to do so.

At the feminist Seneca Falls Conference in 1848, lesbian feminists declared war on marriage. They believed that females are owed support whether married or not, whether they work or not. Feminist females believe that they “deserve” to be supported by men. At the Seneca Falls Conference feminists adopted a long term goal of female leaving their husbands, taking his children, and still forcing him to support them. Over the next 100 years feminists lobbied legal changes such as alimony, no-fault divorce, female custody of his children, and finally the indentured servitude (slavery) of fathers under the euphemism “child support.” A big piece of their misandrist agenda was female suffrage which gives them the political power to force these changes, destroy marriage and family, and enslave men.

FemiNazi believe that they are “entitled” claim all the money that all men earn, for no reason other than being endowed with a cunt. They have twisted marriage until the current law has no benefits for men and no obligations for females.

The vows under feminist legal and immoral codes are as follows:

She vows:
1.Not much of anything. She isn't obligated to sex, or bearing his children. She may abort (murder) his child or cry "rape" for sex. She doesn't promise to take his name, nor keep his house. She can fuck any other man she wants. She can leave any time she feels like it, and take his children and property.

He vows:
1.He will give her sex when and if she wants it.
2.He will do the housework in addition to working a killer job to provide for her shoe shopping.
3.He gives her at least half of his property including real and personal property, investments, and all his earnings. Often she gets it all.
4.He gives her ownership of his children, if any.
5.He owes her his future earnings if she bears any children, even those of other men.
6.He promises to support her and her children until hell freezes over or the lazy bums finish college and graduate school and who knows how long after that.
7.He will obey her and not complain if she beats him with a frying pan, etc.

Note that under feminist marriage law he is obligated to much of that list even if he has never agreed to marry the whore. If she gets pregnant (who knows by whom) and claims him as the father of her bastard, she may claim the majority of his “estimated” future earnings for the next 20 years under penalty of prison. Obviously men gain nothing and lose everything in a marriage under feminism. Take Bob's advice and Don't do it. Don't ever do it. You cannot win.

Now getting back to Tiger Woods and Jessey James.

In a traditional marriage, a husband vows to engage in sex with his wife. He does not vow to monogamy under her control and domination. A real man does not kowtow to feminazi control. He does not grovel and beg forgiveness for shagging some other hot twat. In civilized cultures females don't expect to own their husbands lives. In civilized cultures females understand that their part of the bargain of marriage is a claim on his support and protection, but not a claim to own and control him. It used to be said that a good woman wouldn't want a man who couldn't even get a mistress. When French President Mitterrand died a few years ago his wife and children sat in the first row at his funeral. The second row was reserved for his mistress and her children. None of the French whined about “how could she tolerate” a man who was rich and powerful and had a mistress.

Tiger Woods made a billion dollars. His wife lived in a fabulous home with a staff of servants helping her take care of his children. To make his billion he had to spend months moving from town to town staying in hotels and eating in restaurants. There is nothing in traditional marriage vows that precludes taking advantage of the long line of whores who always flock around rich athletic men. Instead of apologizing to the feminist wife, and to the feminist media whores, he should have claimed his power. He should have said something like “I'm a rich athlete. Women line up to entertain me. We had a good time. Take your jealousy and pound sand.”

Jesse James ended up with a rich bitch Hollywood star wife. She was always gone somewhere doing the latest film. And even when she was home, a man gets bored banging the same old tired cunt. At age 40 plus, she isn't going to bear children anyway, so its a marriage that never will be consummated. Ms. Sandra Bullock picked him because he was a 'bad boy” biker. Nice guys don't get laid, every man knows that. So the “bad boy” biker likes to bang kinky tattooed biker babes just for fun. It really doesn't matter if he bangs a few biker babes. As long as he bangs his wife now and then, and lets her play house with his daughter she has no bitch. She gets to show off her “bad boy” biker at fancy Hollywood parties. No problem.

While we are on the topic of marriage, the topic of bride kidnapping or marriage by abduction sometimes comes up. Of course the feminazi anti-marriage men hating press has a feminazi hissy fit, but marriage by abduction is a very old custom among many cultures. A 1950s Major Hollywood musical film, Seven Brides for Seven Brothers, celebrated kidnapped brides, all of whom found love and happiness with their new husbands. The great Genghis Kahn captured a bride from every city he conquered. It is occasionally still done in the US, but the femiNazi and their blue gun thug Gestapo go totally bananas. Feminazi demand female control, and bride capture puts the man in control.

In a traditional moral society a good father keeps his daughter in his home and supports her until she is of an age to breed, perhaps 13 or 15. The good father then looks for a good husband for his daughter, and helps her to find an appropriate man who can support and protect her. He seeks men who are old enough to support her. The good father gives her hand to the husband in the marriage ceremony, and his fatherly responsibility for her is ended. Unfortunately for many young females in this society, too many men have been raised under feminist indoctrination. Too many men now think that their daughter is supposed to follow the false feminist life plan away from marriage and into whoring. Too many men want daughters to eschew marriage to pursue a man's “education” and a man's career while she entertains a long parade of men through her cunt. In addition, far too many young females today are born bastards, or are taken from their fathers to be raised as whores by feminist whore mothers.

Recently some feminist asked Bob about the moral situationist of a husband who was banging some whore at work. When the whore got pregnant and created a bastard his wife threw a hissy fit and abrogated her marriage, women no longer vow to stay married. The wife lost face among feminists because she could not control her husband, so she abandoned her marriage. Both females, the whore and the wife, hired lieyers who used the kangaroo “family” court system to take all his property and money plus his future earnings.

The morality of that hypothetical is, first, the whore is solely responsible for her bastard. She and she alone has available birth control pills, abortions, abandonment, or adoption. She has the moral responsibility of a whore for her bastards, plus a new responsibility for all the choices she makes to create the bastard. Second, the wife has no moral reason to seriously harm her children and her own life by tearing up her marriage. She turns her daughters into whores instead of good young women when they lose the protection and guidance of their father. Her sons become fatherless losers, and she goes from a high status wife to a low life whore. Instead of losing face among femiNazi, she should be proud that she is the wife of a man whom so many women want, a very enviable position.

We could also mention the fiction of “gay marriage.” The whole concept of so-called “gay marriage” being pushed hard by loony lefties, feminists, and faggots is a lie and a contradiction. Neither Adam and Steve, nor Sue and Eve can make a baby together. There can never be a marriage of two men or two females. Marriage is a biological union, not a list of government benefits given for love. The government supports real biological marriage because society has a serious interest in supporting families that bear the huge cost of raising the next generation. Two rump riders, or two lolly lickers claiming the modest benefits designed for children has all the moral virtue of adults stealing Halloween candy from kids. Shame on all the perverts and loony lefties who wage war on marriage by promoting fiction and lies called “gay marriage.”

Many men are now refusing to marry because of the legal nightmare that leftist legislatures have created at the request of misandrist lesbian feminists. Until and unless marriage is restored to some common sense with a semblance of equality between men and females there are no benefits for men. Only a damn fool would contemplate marriage under such extreme misandrist law. The biggest mistake that Woods and James made was thinking that the men's nightmare of feminist marriage laws didn't apply to them. They thought they were different. Fools.

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133 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Right on brother Bob, hit the nail on the head as usual.I used to to think Bob was an extremist, now I beleive everything he says.
Anonymous age 67

April 03, 2010 7:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AH TheHappyMisogynist A BIBLE FOR MEN

THE MENS BIBLE!

THE FEMINAZI WHORES WILL BURN IN HELL!!

I KNOW WHAT A LOT OF GUYS ARE SAYING

WHY WON'T THE ALIEN WOMEN COME AND SAVE US!!

I'VE BEEN THINKING THAT MYSELF LATELY!

SERIOUSLY FUCKING A GOAT WOULD BE EASIER!

EVEN THE DEVIL WOULD SHRINK IN FEAR AT THE EVIL OF THE FEMINAZIS

UNCONFIRMED PICTURE OF A FEMINAZI BULLDYKE(see how the EYES ARE RED!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILBpi591TAU&feature=related

April 03, 2010 8:47 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a man gets bored banging the same old tired cunt.

I wonder if women get tired of getting banged by the same old prick?

Bob, I'm afraid that women all over the world have gotten it into their heads that they're human and entitled to human lives not those of females. The idea that everything good and interesting and worthwhile is reserved for men doesn't seem to have much of a toehold anymore. I don't know how to convince women otherwise. Used to be that religion kept them thinking they were born to be miserable slaves but that's not working anymore. Now they think they should have meaningful lives.

What's to do?

April 03, 2010 3:05 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
Of course women should have full, rich, meaningful lives as mothers of good children. They will have several decades to get degrees or whatever after their children are grown. The false promises of the lesbian or whore life is a dead end as many older women realize only too late. The beauty of traditional marriage is that it provide full rich wonderful lives for everyone. The disaster we have today is just that, a disaster for all.

April 03, 2010 3:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Absolutely Bob, I know a woman who became a veterarian at age 45 after rasing four children. She had them all by age 27.She married young, loved her husband and children and now has a career. If these naive young girls were not being brainwashed by feminist propaganda they would not find themselves to be the equivalent of a rotary telephone by the age of 30old and outdated.

April 03, 2010 3:45 PM  
Anonymous Mario said...

Well said, Bob. The biggest mistake Tiger made was to get married. In such a misandrist society like the USA, he’s the perfect victim of an evil legal system: male, rich and young. Here in Mexico, family codes are not so misandrist but there is a clear trend to follow suit the American nightmare. Anyway, given the continued decline of young males in both Mexico and USA which are victims of misandrist policies and a vilification of male and masculine roles in society, which has produced a lack of decent prospects young women have to marry with, I wonder if our societies could recover some kind of sanity and formally reintroduce polygamy to build strong and stable families to raise children instead of the glorification of the single mummery our societies do today.
Yours.

April 03, 2010 4:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>Right on brother Bob, hit the nail on the head as usual.I used to to think Bob was an extremist, now I beleive everything he says.
Anonymous age 67

Hey, Bob, can you check IP's? I do not remember making that posting. I don't know which time zone that is on, but I did not drag out of bed until later.

Also, I will never say I believe everything you say. That is ridiculous. Whoever posted that pretending it was from me is probably a lying Christian or feminist in action.

Anonymous age 67

April 03, 2010 9:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>On another note the Canadian feminist who used my identifier some time ago in a cheap attempt to break me can go pound salt, a term that Bob often uses, Fight on Bob fight on.
Anonymous Age 67

April 03, 2010 7:42 AM

Ditto for that one. You have a liar posting on your board.

Anonymous age 67

April 03, 2010 9:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob, you are under attack. Put your cursor on Mario below, and you will see it is a malware link.

I clicked on MARIO and here is what my Linux computer said to me:

You are about to log in to the site "hotmail.com" with the username "krasnoi", but the website does not require authentication. This may be an attempt to trick you.

Is "hotmail.com" the site you want to visit? [Yes?] [No?]

Um, Mario, not only are you a vandal, but you must live in a different Mexico than I am in. When a women commits adultery here, she does not get the house; the kids; the car; and the man's pay check for the next 50 years. And, when a woman files a false sex abuse charge, the medical examiner asks some hard questions. My best friend had that job for 22 years, and he said half of rape charges were found to be false. He took it as his personal job to send rapists to prison, and to keep those falsely accused out of prison.



Anonymous age 67

April 03, 2010 9:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, it was a pretty good blog, Bob. I never 100% agree with anyone on anything but it was good.

I did not know the part about the men not promising fidelity. But, it is true in the Old Testament, viewed as history, men were allowed to have concubines and more than one wife.

So, what you say does make sense.

I do agree 100% with your view of marriage as a big mistake for men in the Anglosphere. I have had a challenge since 1984 for anyone to show me any benefit any man gets from a legal marriage in the US. The minute women were allowed to run a sexless marriage, only a fool gets married. It's all about enslaving men, and married men get nothing single men can't have free.

For some reason, I was thinking about Tibet, I think it is. We had a social worker in the factory, working as an assembler. She got her degree, and apparently decided she did not hate men enough to work in the field.

She told us one day that in Tibet, at least a country in the Himalayas, one man could not support a wife and her kids. So, four or five men would go together and buy a wife. They all shared her, and the group could come up with enough food for her and her kids.

The secondary result was they took most girl babies and abandoned them on the rocks for the wolves. Extra girls were going to starve anyway.

In most cases, polyandry or polygamy, are a result of harsh reality. The Arabs had it, because most men could not support a wife, so the guys who could took more women into their family and supported them.

Anonymous age 67

April 03, 2010 10:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If a girl is forced into a father-arranged marriage through threats, violence, intimidation, coercion -- is it still a legal marriage? Her "consent" will be a lie.

April 04, 2010 6:43 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:

If a girl is denied a full, rich, normal married life and forced into a false feminist life of whoring, temporary "relationship," single motherhood, or lesbian sterility by coercion, brainwashing, intimidation, indoctrination, threats, or violence -- it is not her free choice nor is it done for her benefit.

April 04, 2010 7:21 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous age 67:

Bob is not able to check the IP and verify identity of all comments. Bob deletes those comments that violate Bob's Rules for Comments posted on the left column of The World According to Bob. It is not possible to determine which anonymous poster is posing as which other anonymous poster. Obvious fakes are, of course, deleted.

Bob didn't see anything in Mario's post that violates Bob's rules for comments. His e-mail address may be hotmail, but Hotmail is now Google, same as Blogspot.

Thank you for your concern.

April 04, 2010 7:30 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:

If one reads the Christian and Jewish texts, one learns that Moses, who handed down God's commandments, had no moral problem capturing 32,000 young women for sex slaves and distributing them to his army. We learn his teaching by his example. His commandment against "adultery" obviously did not extend to men who trade or use of young women as sex slaves. The original meaning required wives not to make bastards.

April 04, 2010 7:40 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The commandment against adultery, which only applies today to those who accept those rules, or live in a nation which has those rules as part of its legal system, depends upon the definition of adultery.

Clearly, when men were allowed multiple wives, which usually only happened when there weren't enough men who could support a wife, adultery did not specify one wife only.

For women, so men would support their children, they were restricted to the man who was their husband.

It was better for women to be one of several wives than to work as a prostitute, which was the other choice they had.

Our system today amounts to multiple husbands, without sex. When a women changes husbands but the first husband still has to send her money, he is essentially still her husband with no benefits of marriage.

Anonymous age 67

For the benefit of others here, the posting claiming to be me, 7:39 am, is not me. It is a lying, egg-sucking feminist troll. I have never said I believe everything Bob says. Thanks feminist troll for showing us just how evil feminists are, the young guys don't know it yet.

Also, I can spell.

April 04, 2010 8:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This page once again shows some basic issues. Clearly, a lot of people do not like Bob nor Bob's views. That is the way life is in a nation which allegedly has freedom of speech.

But, those who don't like him often make Bob look good, while they think they are making him look bad.

I am talking the vandals who link to malware. I am talking the lying egg-suckers who pretend to be someone they are not.

Their dishonesty and treachery make Bob look good. Good job, idiots. I don't mind, but you seem not to like him, yet you justify his criticism of you, which to rational folks would seem counter productive.


Anonymous age 67

April 04, 2010 9:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quote:
"If Tiger Woods is such a bad person then what do we make of all those women who slept with him knowing full well that he had a wife and kids at home? The Sisterhood, don't make me laugh, they could care less. Those ladies were lining up for the infamous Alpha Male and you know what? They still are. Were there any editorials about the disgraceful behaviour of his mistresses? No. They're woman so they're above the law, it's considered inappropriate to criticize and condemn them. But anyone who attacks Woods should take the same stance with those Blow Pigs who clung to him like deoderant". written by Bernard C,
Sent in By Bernard B.

April 04, 2010 10:45 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is Bob any less a coercive despot than the Feminists? It's not either/or: either Bob's ancient way, or modern "feminist" way. There is a middle ground that Bob & Co. don't recognize.

Just b/c a woman rejects Bob's views, doesn't mean she is "brainwashed" into wanting something else. (For example, if after careful consideration you pick the Baptist Church over the Catholic, no priest can declare you a brainwashed fool.)

April 04, 2010 12:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In order for Bob's views on marriage to take hold, it would first be necessary to eliminate all educational and employment opportunities for women. No woman with a choice would put up with what Bob advocates--all fun, education, worthwhile activities and meaningful, independent lives for men, all dependence,chastity, faithfulness and drudgery for women. If they have a choice women will never go for this. That's why everything they want leads to them getting away from men. I've asked before if there is any country where a majority of women reject independence in favor being traditional wives and mothers. Nobody can name me one because that's not what they want. The minute they get a shot at birth control they take it. When they get education they seize it. When they get a chance at ditching us they do it. No first-world country has the kind of relationship between men and women Bob described. Only third-world countries where women don't have a choice. Even in traditional countries like Afghanistan and Iraq the women want us there so their lives can be different. They don't want to be our wives and mothers of our children. They want to live like men do. As long as they have a choice they won't accept traditional stuff like Bob describes here. Not if they have a choice. Look at the whole world. There's no hope for having things traditional again. Look at the favorite slogan of feminists. "Feminism is the radical notion that women are people." They think traditional women's roles aren't as satisfying as being educated and independent and living like men do. They don't want us if they have a choice.

April 04, 2010 3:20 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
On the contrary. Very few females are happy with the failed feminist life that they have been forced to follow. Instead of denying their natural biological desires and forcing young women into failure with laws and psychological conditioning, giving them real teaching and real options to have full, rich, rewarding lives as wives and mothers would be far more satisfying on a very deep behavioral level.

It is well known that teenage women fight hard with parents and everyone else who forces them into feminist whoredom. Stop fighting young women and help them have the good lives they struggle so hard to have.

April 04, 2010 3:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't we all get along?

April 04, 2010 4:29 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:

We used to all get along. But then the femiNazi started a hate war against men, marriage, and our families.

For further reading see:
http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/2005/05/it-wasnt-men.html

or

http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/2005/06/it-really-doesnt-matter.html

April 04, 2010 4:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A significant study in the mid-90's showed that 2/3 of working women would actually rather stay at home with their kids. The belief that women really want the hard-driving career life is pure hoax.

Anonymous age 67

April 04, 2010 8:15 PM  
Anonymous Mario said...

Bob,
I see someone is concerned about my identity. My mail is krasnoi@hotmail.com if anyone wants to reach me. As for Mexico, Family Law allows you to marry under two regimes: Common Assets and Separated Assets. If you marry under the first one, the combined assets of the two spouses are split 50-50 after a divorce, and the male has to pay alimony and child support if children were raised. Under the second regime, everyone retains his/her assets after the breakup and child support is paid if children were raised. But the point I wanted to make is that any male must be allowed to have as many wives as he can afford. Many women complain for a lack of decent prospects to marry, that worthy men are scarce (and what did they expect if a majority of children are now raised by single mothers at the expense of taxpayers, doing a poor job by raising drunk, drugged, useless young adults). Alpha males could marry several women and create strong and large families, the domestic job will be lighter with many hands and the wives will never be bored. It sounds more logical to me that having a legion of single mummies living at the expense of the tax system.
Yours.

April 04, 2010 9:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"it would first be necessary to eliminate all educational and employment opportunities for women (and girls)."

Yes.
And to achive that pluralistic democracy must fall.

April 04, 2010 11:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Even in traditional countries like Afghanistan and Iraq the women want us there so their lives can be different. They don't want to be our wives and mothers of our children. They want to live like men do."

Correct. America enforces women's rights against the men of the world. Correct, women, girls, etc, do not want to be the wives, servants, etc of men. When they have the choice they choose not what is to the advantage of men but what is to the advantage of women and girls: they are of a diffrent team and in politics they own both teams from the beginning of time (men are murdered for rape/bride abduction in almost all traditional societies (excluding ethiopian, old turkish, and ancient israeli society)). Men worship at the foot of the woman in christianity, islam, ancient rome, old european pagan religions and customs, england, america, etc etc etc.

It's just the way it is, always has been, and always will be.

The market has never changed.

April 04, 2010 11:31 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
Large studies recently published show that women are, on average, much less satisfied with their lives than they were before feminism took away their families.

April 05, 2010 5:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Large studies recently published show that women are, on average, much less satisfied with their lives than they were before feminism took away their families."

For the past many decades men have "fought" feminism by arguing that it is bad for women. This has not worked. They never argue that it is bad for men as no one, not even men, cares about men. Women and their children first.

Why continue arguing about what's good for women? Men should be concerned about other things.

April 05, 2010 7:16 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

krasnoi@hotmail.com, thanks for the clarification. My concern was not for your identity, you consistently used Mario. My concern was the fact that clicking on it seemed to give access to a hotmail page without authentication, which made me think of malware. And, my browser warned me this was something to think over.

krasnoi@hotmail.com is exactly right. In Mexico to enter a legal marriage, the only choice is a civil marriage. In a conflict in the time of our Civil War, between Benito Juarez and the Catholic Church, Juarez made marriage strictly a civil matter.

So, to this date, in the country at least, people enter what is technically called a private marriage. Here, it is called Free Union. And, the government can go hang. The difference between Free Union and shacking up is Mexican couples living in Free Union really believe they are married, and shack-ups will tell you they are not married, just living together. If you as a foreigner move to Mexico and enter Free Union, PLEASE understand you are really married to her. If you find a good woman, it is very cruel to live with her, let her believe you are married via Free Union, that is, a private marriage, then tell her you are not really married. If a woman is not good enough for you to believe she is really your wife, without legal papers, you should not dirty yourself on her.

In the local hospital, on the glass window there are instructions for applying for medical care. The two choices are legal marriage, and Free union.

Three years ago, a cousin's son wanted to baptize his daughter. The priest would only accept a married person as sponsoer if they showed the civil wedding papers, and the church wedding papers. They had to import a virgin cousin from Mexico city as sponsor, jijiji. And, this is a very large family. In the past, they usually had the lesbian cousin from Mexico City come out and be sponsor. I am told that virgin cousin in the past three years has started to live in Free Union with a man.

Except in the state of Hidalgo, the last time I checked last year, there are few legal repercussions from Free Union, as far as palimony type legal actions, but you must support your kids. My best friend says her observation is, perhaps 80% of women who are legally entitled to child support do not even apply for it. Her son's wife, married by the law but not legally divorced, has declined to petition for a court order for support. I asked if this was because of fear of violence when he gets the order. She said maybe sometimes, but it is just not part of the culture for divorced women to expect money from the ex-husband.

Anonymous age 67

April 05, 2010 9:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Posting above Part 1.

My wife's aunt is over 91 years old, she and her husband have lived in Free Union for probably 70 years, raised a large family.

A friend said she has to stop and think to come up with names of any couples who actually married in a civil wedding, except one of her sons.

The legal statement of property ownership at legal marriage krasnoi@hotmail.com mentioned is the ultimate prenup. If a woman agrees to separate properties, it is binding, except as he noted, the man must support his children. But, there is no back-door demand of the court to have it tossed out and give the little pig everything.

"Oh, boo hoo, I was pregnant and felt I had to sign, though I didn't want to. Besides I have changed my mind. And, I didn't really understand how much money this pendejo really had. Save me, Mr. Judge, oh, please, save me, boo hoo."

The civil register makes sure the papers are in order and there is no wiggle room.

Mexico City is changing its marriage and divorce laws, thanks to the Marxist party being in charge. Now, for the first time, unilateral, no-fault divorce is possible.

There was a story in the US press last fall. A man and his wife living in Mexico City made an agreement she would live separately, and he would pay her from the business they ran (but he had separate property agreement at time of marriage) something like $1500 USD a month. That is quite a bit of money in Mexico.

The new law came into effect, and the feminists convinced her to file for divorce. He quickly transferred his properties to his brother and the judge gave her something like $300 a month. Jijiji.

Oh, did she and the feminist reporter whine and belly ache about this.

What these idiots didn't understand was, she had broken their agreement. He voluntarily agreed to pay her $1500 a month if she stayed married to him, and lived elsewhere. He was not at all bound to keep his side of the agreement after she broke hers by divorcing him. In the US, as you know, she gets to break her agreements, and you have to keep yours.

When I first came to Mexico, I had my cultural bias that marriage was only possible by government documents. Over the years, I learned that in ancient times, all marriages except for the very rich and royalty were private marriages. Then, the clergy realized, "Hey, we can control things here." So, they decreed only they can marry anyone.

As time passed, governments realized, "Hey, we are the government. We get to control everything." So, they grabbed it away from the clergy.

I did a lot of legal research on divorce between 1984 and 1993. I learned that in the US, marriage has absolutely no legal significance except for control of property. None at all. I finally realized no couple is more married than when they think they are married, without government papers. And, no couple is more divorced than when they believe they are divorced, without government papers. Period.

Anonymous age 67

April 05, 2010 9:08 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
You are right that the important thing for men is to find what is good for men. Women don't matter much. However, it is true that feminism and the destruction of families has also been bad for females of all ages. We read a news story recently about a 7 year old whore. The wages of feminist single mothers.

April 05, 2010 9:15 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous age 67.

Indeed. All the licenses of modern western culture were originated by the "progressive" socialists in the first part of the 20th century. We who grew up in the last part of the 20th century sometimes assume that a "normal" situation is to have a government control and license for every part of your life. Our life is totally government regulated from our birth in a government licensed hospital assisted by a government licensed doctor to burial by a government licensed cemetery by a government licensed undertaker. The government also wants to control and license everything we do in between, our marriage, transportation, food production, etc., etc., etc. Every part of our life is owned and regulated by the government. Most of that is also a result of feminism and female suffrage. We need to reclaim freedom and get the government out of our lives.

April 05, 2010 9:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My wife's aunt is over 91 years old, she and her husband have lived in Free Union for probably 70 years, raised a large family.

A friend said she has to stop and think to come up with names of any couples who actually married in a civil wedding, except one of her sons.

The legal statement of property ownership at legal marriage krasnoi@hotmail.com mentioned is the ultimate prenup. If a woman agrees to separate properties, it is binding, except as he noted, the man must support his children. But, there is no back-door demand of the court to have it tossed out and give the little pig everything.

"Oh, boo hoo, I was pregnant and felt I had to sign, though I didn't want to. Besides I have changed my mind. And, I didn't really understand how much money this pendejo really had. Save me, Mr. Judge, oh, please, save me, boo hoo."

The civil register makes sure the papers are in order and there is no wiggle room.

Mexico City is changing its marriage and divorce laws, thanks to the Marxist party being in charge. Now, for the first time, unilateral, no-fault divorce is possible.

There was a story in the US press last fall. A man and his wife living in Mexico City made an agreement she would live separately, and he would pay her from the business they ran (but he had separate property agreement at time of marriage) something like $1500 USD a month. That is quite a bit of money in Mexico.

The new law came into effect, and the feminists convinced her to file for divorce. He quickly transferred his properties to his brother and the judge gave her something like $300 a month. Jijiji.

Oh, did she and the feminist reporter whine and belly ache about this.

What these idiots didn't understand was, she had broken their agreement. He voluntarily agreed to pay her $1500 a month if she stayed married to him, and lived elsewhere. He was not at all bound to keep his side of the agreement after she broke hers by divorcing him. In the US, as you know, she gets to break her agreements, and you have to keep yours.

When I first came to Mexico, I had my cultural bias that marriage was only possible by government documents. Over the years, I learned that in ancient times, all marriages except for the very rich and royalty were private marriages. Then, the clergy realized, "Hey, we can control things here." So, they decreed only they can marry anyone.

As time passed, governments realized, "Hey, we are the government. We get to control everything." So, they grabbed it away from the clergy.

I did a lot of legal research on divorce between 1984 and 1993. I learned that in the US, marriage has absolutely no legal significance except for control of property. None at all. I finally realized no couple is more married than when they think they are married, without government papers. And, no couple is more divorced than when they believe they are divorced, without government papers. Period.

Anonymous age 67

April 05, 2010 9:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>We need to reclaim freedom and get the government out of our lives.

Get The Hell Out has worked rather well for me, heh, heh.

I will say to my credit that I am contagious. I was active on an MRA board for several years and writing about my life here in Mexico attracted a lot of attention. Recently, I received a note from the board operator. He said currently all the moderators have left the US and are living in places like Italy and China. When I started, there was little discussion of expatting. I do my best with what I have, heh, heh.

I realize not everyone can simply pack up and leave. But, any man living in the Anglosphere should at least be working on an exit plan. I guarantee you even in your late 60's or early 70's, you can have a 20 something wife here where I live. You might have to take a Type I unwed mother or a young widow, but in this culture that is not always a problem and you need not marry before the law.

Anonymous age 67

April 05, 2010 9:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My grandmother raised six children and had 14 granchildren, she died on her 84th birthday. She loved being a mother and a grandmother and I can assure you she was probably the happiest woman I ever knew.

April 05, 2010 12:49 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-rice5-2010apr05,0,610650.story

You should comment on this and explain that rape is no big deal for anyone. It's sex with a disagreement about who will decide, no more. It certainly doesn't need federal action.

April 05, 2010 12:53 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
Where men are denied the ability to protect themselves by being caged in hellhole prisons, the wardens and the government have an ABSOLUTE responsibly to protect them from all forms of harm. The prison warden is equally guilty of any crime that is done to any man in prison. When any prisoner is assaulted by a faggot pervert or any other criminal, the warden and the state is criminally responsible.

April 05, 2010 2:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think true rape is always a serious thing, for anyone man or woman. That is why I think false rape charges should be severely punished, so real rape cases are not allowed to get away lightly.

However, let me tell you my experience with women, when I have explained this rape in prison for men thing.

Almost always when I tell them the facts, they sit there, as if meditating and in a short time start laughing and laughing until their eyes water and the water runs down their cheeks. It is obviously the funniest thing they have ever heard.

I am a slow learner, but I did learn from women. Clearly, they do not think rape is that serious. Sure the selfish creatures don't like being raped, but if male rape is funny, then I presume so is female rape. I had good teachers.

It is not only women. My eldest son is a college Ph. D. and he says getting raped is just part of the sentence for your crime. Ph.D's can be stupid at times.

There is a problem. There was a case some years ago where white men chained a black to a pickup and dragged him to pieces, remember that? The MSM hedged by saying one of the men responsible had been 'assaulted' by blacks in prison. Read assaulted as raped.

And also a few years ago, a Mexican man was riding the rails around the country, killing women. Turns out he also had been raped repeatedly in prison.

So, some of these men come out really sick and twisted after being tortured by rape, and the guards laugh at them. With all the men we have in prison, we are going to be releasing some extremely dangerous men.

Anonymous age 68

April 05, 2010 9:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>My grandmother raised six children and had 14 granchildren, she died on her 84th birthday. She loved being a mother and a grandmother and I can assure you she was probably the happiest woman I ever knew.

Exactly! Good story, thanks. Millions upon millions of women in history felt the same way.

Anonymous age 68

April 05, 2010 9:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.sankakucomplex.com/2009/12/28/12-year-old-girl-raped-in-muslim-marriage/
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12-Year-Old Girl Raped in “Muslim” Marriage

* Author: Artefact
* Categories: International, News
* Date: Dec 28, 2009 09:00 JST

* Tags: Bizarre, Crime, Islam, Lolicon, Marriage, Raep, UK

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A man who had his son “marry” and rape a 12-year-old girl has been arrested together with his son and the girl’s father.

The 54-year-old London man, together with his wife (54), arranged an illegal Muslim marriage between his 16-year-old son and his brother’s 12-year-old daughter, a common arrangement in some Islamic countries but highly illegal in the UK.

The boy was subsequently urged to consummate the marriage by members of the family.

The case came to light after the girl’s mother complained to police about her daughter being married off in an arranged marriage.

Both the father of the boy and the father of the girl were subsequently convicted of inciting a child to engage in sexual activity, receiving three year prison sentences; the boy’s mother was also given a suspended 1 year prison sentence and ordered to perform community service.

The young “husband” was charged with rape and given an 18-month supervision order.

The girl’s father and the boy were also placed on the sex offenders register.

Via the BBC.
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A commentator erroneously responds:

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Well, how many other religion alows you to marry multiple wives, keep them as slaves, rape them, marry and rape lolis. And on top of that they promise you a bunch of virgins when you die.
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Another corrects him:

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Actually a things like that doesn't exists anymore because it is everywhere against the laws. *rolls eyes*

You should update your knowledge.
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The fact of the matter is that in the last 15 years the world of men has ENDED.

It is GONE.
FOREVER.

All men do is flee. They fled to india, mexico, asia, etc. Now in india, mexico, asia women's rights has been strengthened.

Men have no where to go.
Men cannot have the girls they wish to have as wives.

What solution do you offer?
Nothing is not a solution.
Running to mexico is not a solution (where even anon 67 tells us all a man can get is a 20+ year old single mother, not a virgin young female)

How about some talk of some solutions.

The women didn't just complain, they complained, decided on the solution (education of girls, raising of marriage age, use of the vast majority of good men against the few minority (us) of bad men). What can we do? Some leadership please. Some suggestions.

A road map. We want our little wives. Maybe not now, maybe abit later, but we cannot live in the woman's world that has fully come into existance within the last generation. It has to end, or we must end (this is happening), or both.

April 05, 2010 10:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also notice how it's always the women that inform about these marriages. Women are not the friends of men. Women all want their kind to be ascendant, and today they most definitely are.

April 05, 2010 10:38 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous: (April 04, 2010 11:31 PM)

Young women WANT to get a husband, get laid, and get a baby. They want a safe place to make and take care of their babies while being supported. Western women fight hard with parents when their natural desires are denied and they are forced, coerced, and mistreated into the failure life of feminist whoredom.

Young women naturally want love, sex, babies and a safe place to raise their children. It always has been, and always will be.

April 06, 2010 6:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Women have proven that they want education, money, male obedience, some bad ass fuck buddies on the side, and the rest of the men in prison. That is what women want.

Women do not want to be the obedient slaves of men. You give no alternatives to the current situation, just complaints.

Men have been complaining forever, to no avail. They are not the controllers of society.

April 06, 2010 9:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>What solution do you offer?
Nothing is not a solution.
Running to mexico is not a solution (where even anon 67 tells us all a man can get is a 20+ year old single mother, not a virgin young female)

Note to anonymous April 05, 2010 10:28 PM

Find a large lake, and... never mind.

You use words like flee and running away. That is based on your totally uninformed viewpoint, and I don't think uninformed viewpoints count as viewpoints.

It is not clear if you are a male or female. With opinions like that, it is really hard to tell.

This is not the end of the male world at all. This would be the comment of a woman, or a girly man.

There are plenty of male friendly nations left. As Bob says, women naturally want babies and a man to take care of them. Women have to be trained to have any other view of life, and even then it is never universally successful. In the 90's, 2/3 of all women in the US admitted they would rather be stay-at-home moms. It turns out the fun of being a whore doesn't last forever. then, it becomes the suffering and misery of being a whore.

This happened before. Yes, indeedy, women ruled the Roman Empire in its last days, just as here. They passed so many anti-male, and male slavery laws men stopped marrying and the Caesar passed a law that any man who didn't marry by age 35 had all his property confiscated. So, the rich guys started marrying foreign women, heh, heh.

The fact that women took over is why the Roman Empire ended.

Never, once the dearies have taken over, has a society survived it.

Every civilization inevitably gives women the right to vote, after it becomes strong and successful.

Once women get the right to vote, it is inevitable they will eventually take over the political system.

Once they take over the political system, it is inevitable their incessant shrieks and demands for more and more protections, even against their own evil and stupid actions, and benefits robbed from men, will destroy the civilization.

It destroyed the Roman Empire. It didn't destroy Sparta, but it did destroy 90% of its wealth. It has destroyed the USA as well.

What is over is not the male world. What is over is the matriachy whoredom of the USA. Women have lived great lives on credit for decades. Me, me, me, now, now, now. Affirmative action, creating phony jobs with big pay for affirmative action equality, it's all over. There is no more money for the whoredom.

The only reason American women don't live like Muslim women, is because the American men were willing to fight them to protect them. Destroying all male influence means men really don't care any more what happens to the whores.

Part of the reason you say stupid things like fleeing and running, is because you are completely ignorant of life outside the whoredom. You imagine there is no good life except in the whoredom. In fact, to you the whoredom IS the whole world. Read your own words.

>>The fact of the matter is that in the last 15 years the world of men has ENDED.

The reason I am successful at getting men to escape the whoredom is because I show them there is not only life outside the whoredom, but life for men is much better outside the whoredom.

I once upon a time was also a stupid snot-nosed kid who thought he could make a difference through activism. I spent ten years of my life and roughly 10,000 hours at it. It is a waste of time. There have been male activists for the last 45 years and nothing comes of it, just as nothing will come from your bravado and insults. You have no clue what has been tried in the past, and you are not going to bother to find out, because you assume the great and wonderful you can do what no other man has ever done.

And, that is exactly why nothing comes from it. A man gets an idea, and works hard on it, and losers like you come busting in and attack him until he quits, then you losers say, “I knew it wasn't going to work.”

Continued

Anonymous age 68

April 06, 2010 10:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Continued:

As far as your sarcastic claim that I expect men cannot get virgins, tell us the last time you slept with a virgin? One of the signs of immaturity in men is not being a virgin themselves, but expecting a woman to be one.

My first wife was a virgin, and she put me through 6.5 years of Hell. My current wife of 35 years was an unwed mother, and her daughter is by far the best single thing that has happened to me in my entire life, though it is obvious you cannot understand that. We have been married 35 years and my life here in Mexico is great. By your remarks, it is apparent your life in the whoredom is not great. Thus, it is reasonable to say you are probably not qualified to lecture anyone on anything.

I am 68 years old. It is true that a man my age cannot get a beautiful virgin here in Mexico. I can get a Type I unwed mother, or an excellent young widow with a couple kids. Do you honestly think if you get some sort of wonderful 'plan' all men will suddenly be able to find beautiful virgins in the whoredom? How funny.

Let me explain Type I unwed mother. In all cultures, in all eras, women have given their promised husbands sexual liberties, if at all possible, before the actual wedding. Even the Puritans seldom married until the women was pregnant.

In Mexico, still pretty much a man's world, in spite of false rumors you might have heard, it is a common sport of men to “promise to marry” the most naïve, sweetest, nicest girls, then when they are pregnant, call them whores and walk off, leaving them a life of Hell. And, an important part of the sport is other men of quality will have nothing to do with them.

I am certainly not going to complain much, because that is a thousand times better than men are treated in the whoredom. She at least gets to keep her kid, and doesn't have to send him money.

But, a certain small percentage of them realize they have messed up, keep their knees together, and get to work supporting their child. These women can make great wives for a man who gets to know them well enough to know they are Type I, and not the normal whore who is soon going to be pregnant again by another 4,321 men..

There aren't many, but it only takes one.

Perhaps in the PI (do you know what that is?) an older man can get a beautiful virgin, I haven't lived there.

Frankly, though you use sarcastic words like flee and run, any man who stays in the whoredom waiting for your master plan to provide him with virgins is in for a very long wait.

But, please carry on. I wait with bated breath to see your name on the evening news, running for elected office.

Anonymous age 68

April 06, 2010 10:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>Also notice how it's always the women that inform about these marriages. Women are not the friends of men. Women all want their kind to be ascendant, and today they most definitely are.

Only in the whoredom. Here in Mexico, women are very harsh with one another. In the whoredom, if a man faces a false sex abuse charge, his mother and sisters sit back and watch as a spectator sport. Here, if a woman files a false sex abuse charge, she may find rocks bouncing off her head when her victims mom and sisters find out.

Also, here when a women commits child abuse or adultery, other women cuss her out good.

It is always a bad idea to write about things you know nothing about.

It is obvious Bob and I don't agree 100% on everything, but you can learn a lot from him if you climb down off your white charger.

Anonymous age 68

April 06, 2010 11:09 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think true rape is always a serious thing, for anyone man or woman.

Bob has said for many years that rape is no big deal and that men's sexual desires should not be punished. Men who have been raped report the same aftereffects as women including anxiety, depression, loss of sense of self, substance abuse, uncontrolled anger attacks etc. Bob has said for many years that these are simply hurt feelings that merit no attention. It is deeply hypocritical to claim that rape of men is somehow a crime that does harm when denying that rape of women is a crime that does harm. Either rape is a crime that does harm to the victim or it isn't. I think it is but I know Bob disagrees.

Young women WANT to get a husband, get laid, and get a baby. They want a safe place to make and take care of their babies while being supported.

If that's what women want why can nobody name me a single country where that's what they CHOOSE if they have a choice? Nowhere where women have choices do they choose traditional relationships. I can't find one and nobody else seems to be able to name one. They don't want to be our wives and mothers of our children. They get away from us as soon as they can. They don't want us around if they have choices. Nowhere in first-world countries do a majority of women choose traditional relationships. When they have birth control the birth rate drops like a rock and doesn't go back up. Marriage declines Women go to school and get jobs and careers if they have the chance. They don't want to be our wives if they can choose not to. I don't know what to do.

April 06, 2010 11:33 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous: (April 06, 2010 11:33 AM)
First, sex between men and women is a normal, natural, and pleasurable activity regardless of who decides this time. Rape is the most common theme in female erotic fiction. Women lust to be taken and fucked hard. Rape is often "The best sex I ever had," according to Rape Crisis Center counselor training. They have to teach real women that they were "victims" for getting laid.

On the other side, homosexuality is NOT normal, not a fantasy or dream of normal men. Anal assault by faggots is a serious unnatural and usually painful trauma that often causes physical injury. It is not the same as natural sexual joining of a man and woman.

Second: Young women prove what they want by all the fighting they do with their parents who have to resorted to force to keep them from forming loving marriages and getting on with their lives as wives and mothers. Harsh feminasty laws make it a "crime" for a young woman to marry. Rather than proving "what women want" the need for a harsh penalties to stop marriage proves that it is strongly desired.

April 06, 2010 12:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those who "strongly desire" Bob's rules for marriage are selfish men bent on exploiting young girls. Those "nasty" laws must exist to stop those men from acting out and hurting others.

April 06, 2010 1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>If that's what women want why can nobody name me a single country where that's what they CHOOSE if they have a chioce?

>>I can't find one and nobody else seems to be able to name one.

Um, Mexico. Nicaragua. Panama. Chile. El Salvador. Peru. PI. Any country that doesn't speak English or is in Europe.

My niece was very high in the Mexican Federal government, and told me if she found a husband and had children, she expected to stay home. She is at home now with her baby.

Let me say this again, maybe if it is repeated enough it will soak in:

THE UNITED STATES IS NOT THE WHOLE WORLD!!!!!

It is very obvious you have never been outside of the US, except as an Ugly American tourist if that. But, you pretend to have vast knowledge of the entire world.

In fact, as I said before, women in the US, 2/3 of them said if they had a CHOICE, they would stay at home with their kids.

You have some really imaginary viewpoints.

Bob and I don't agree on everything, and rape is one where we don't agree. However, this is his blog. I will say rape of women is much, much less common than you think.

And, when women stay at home nights, it is even much less common. When the whores go out alone while half naked, yeah, it's pretty risky. Especially when they make it plain they want it, and then whine when they get it from the wrong man. There are some things smart people avoid doing. Men do not go into ethnic bars and shout out racist remarks. And women who aren't whores don't go out half naked looking for a sex partner.

I have always thought a woman's sexual experience should determine the exact charge against a rapist. Rape was intended to protect chaste, faithful women for their lawful husbands.

I think any woman, even if she is a hooker, should have some defense against 'rape', but the severe punishments should be only against men who rape good women. Raping a whore should be punished, but punished like slapping her, or not paying her hooker bill, which is all rape means to a whore.

Some years ago, there was a nationally publicized "rape case". A woman in a bar lay down in front of all the drunks there, and spread her legs, servicing a man in front of all the other men who chose to join the fun. Oh,my a terrible crime? No, instead of prison the men should have been ordered to pay her the going rate for a low-class hooker. that is what she was, the cheapest of whores.

As a side note, I have mentioned marital rape here in Mexico, and women are totally confused by it. They don't understand how a woman can believe she was raped by her husband. She married him knowing she was expected to give him sex, and he was in exchange supposed to support her and her kids, how could there be rape? They don't get it, because they haven't had their brains run through an Osterizer yet.

I get the impression that, though you don't really grasp reality at all, you think you are bringing great truths to a bunch of dummies.

Anonymous age 68

April 06, 2010 2:17 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous: (April 06, 2010 1:11 PM)
Just keep spewing your feminist hate. It demonstrates why and how feminism has gone so wrong, and how it hurts so many men, females, and children. The more hate you spew, the more men will see feminism for what it is.

April 06, 2010 4:25 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was thinking about this today, Bob. I think you have told us this, and I didn't fully understand.

Ten thousand years of history shows that girls are ready for sex and marriage, in some cases as early as 15 years of age. They want it.

On their own, with a concept called hypergamy, sexually mature, ready girls would be looking at age 15, for successful men capable of supporting them, as old as 40 years old, depending upon physical condition. Older men to marry, not bang around on.

They would get a good life, car as soon as they get a d/l. Nice house, spending money and kids. And, while he goes off to work, she can hang out with the other teen-age wives in the neighborhood. Play with the kids; listen to some music; chat; do a few minutes of housework every day.

Well, we can't have that. Gotta' destroy men, and men aren't destroyed when they have a sexy young wife at home, and a good job.

So, for decades, we have had a propaganda campaign, preaching that having sex with a physically mature 15 year old is pedophilia, which by definition is a lie. Pedophilia by definition is sex with a sexually immature child, not a 15 year old babe built like Dolly Parton.

So, any man who is mature and can support a young wife is labeled a sick pervert, and the girls believe it, too.

As a result, the 15 year olds still get laid. They are conditioned to do it with snot nose kids still on an allowance from mommy and daddy. When they get knocked up, there is no way for them to marry. So, all the men are taxed to support the woman and her kids who should be supported by that 30 or 40 year old in a nice house.

And, of course, since she still wants to be laid, she continues to shell out more kids for the taxpayers to support.

Yet, the only thing accomplished is keeping financially capable men from having young wives. They sure don't stop those young girls from having vigorous sex wives.

Anonymous age 68

April 06, 2010 8:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I am 68 years old. It is true that a man my age cannot get a beautiful virgin here in Mexico."

And you see this as just fine and insult others about it on a long rant.

Some cultures once respected those men with, a few still do. Mexico and America do not.

April 07, 2010 1:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Marriage declines Women go to school and get jobs and careers if they have the chance. They don't want to be our wives if they can choose not to. I don't know what to do."

You are correct. Women and girls do not want to be what men want them to be. Caring about what women want is unlikely to ever give men what men want.

April 07, 2010 1:23 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Those who "strongly desire" Bob's rules for marriage are selfish men bent on exploiting young girls. Those "nasty" laws must exist to stop those men from acting out and hurting others."

A house divided against itself cannot stand. No country or culture that has enforced those "nasty" laws has ever continued in existance. No nation that has turned upon it's men survives.

House means family/clan/etc btw, not a building.

April 07, 2010 1:27 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"My niece was very high in the Mexican Federal government, and told me if she found a husband and had children, she expected to stay home."

Yea? So? Everyone on earth wants it easy. What's your point?

April 07, 2010 1:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As a side note, I have mentioned marital rape here in Mexico, and women are totally confused by it. They don't understand how a woman can believe she was raped by her husband. She married him knowing she was expected to give him sex, and he was in exchange supposed to support her and her kids, how could there be rape? They don't get it, because they haven't had their brains run through an Osterizer yet."

Didn't happen overnight in america either.

Why should I join a sinking ship?
More than 1/2 the countries in the world have criminalized marital rape, more join yearly. The only countries that haven't are in africa, parts of the middle east, and... china.

Just about Every other country has criminalized marital rape.

I am not moving to mexico. It is a sinking ship. Better to allready be submerged in a submarine.

This is not a man's world.

April 07, 2010 1:33 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous, age 68

Remember that the fabled Juliet was age 12. Young women are ready to marry and bear children when they are physically mature and ready to bear children. Millions of years of evolution are not changed by a few decades of feminasty hate.

April 07, 2010 6:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>Young women are ready to marry and bear children when they are physically mature and ready to bear children

As is often the case, Bob, you are exactly right. Where we differ is in my belief that it is never a good idea to advocate violating the laws, any laws, of the nation where you are, no matter how stupid they are. Just go to another nation with different laws.

Anonymous age 68

April 07, 2010 9:41 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here are a couple of true "marital rape" stories. As usual, I urge no one to push his luck by violating any law in his society, no matter how stupid.

In the late 60's, I was married to a true fiend who put me through 6.5 years of Hell. Not to say every moment was Hell, just the long-term experience.

One night, I woke up and had a Great Idea, involving the person sleeping in my bed, and no sooner had the thought than I implemented it. She awoke before I completed the Great Idea and assisted with somewhat more enthusiasm than normal.

Later she boasted about it to her friends. She woke from an extremely erotic dream, a delicious erotic dream, it was a great experience. Clearly, she did not feel raped at all. She viewed it as one of my better moves.

Today, that would be a terrible idea. Not only can she turn on you but if she tells her friends how good it was, they might call the cops, and you could find yourself Nifonged into prison.

The second tale involved a couple women I worked with. Like most MRA's I have more woman friends than most men do, something man-haters simply cannot understand.

They were telling how their husbands reacted to BAYWATCH, which they called Buttwatch. Both husbands would get all horned up and come running for their wives after the show was over.

One of them worked early overtime, and had to get up at like 4:30 am. She slept like a log, and to wake her up for his great idea, it took a while, then she couldn't get back to sleep, and felt like crud all day.

She finally told him, "I want you to come to me whenever you need it, but this is killing me off. Please go ahead, just don't wake me up. Just pull up my underpants when you are done."

She also did not view herself as raped.

Any woman who would view herself as raped by her husband really doesn't care much for him.

Anonymous age 68

April 07, 2010 10:19 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous, age 68.
You are right about laws. Bob does not advocate any criminal or illegal acts. The current feminist laws are codification of feminist misandry and need to be changed. Put the femiNazi cows and manginas out to pasture.

April 07, 2010 10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It looks like some of the posters here have a common viewpoint that women, or females, are not actually human beings. Humans have the ability, and should have the opportunity, to choose for themselves how they would like to spend their lives. If some females would prefer to marry a man of their own choosing, what's the problem? If they prefer a career to motherhood, fine. There are plenty of other women for us to marry. If some want to delay motherhood, or opt out of it completely, so what? There's no shortage of babies in the world.

To the guy bemoaning the fact that women choose not to be wives and mothers if they get the chance, get over it. They're human beings, not blow-up dolls. What have you got to offer instead of a career that should make them choose you instead? What business have you got choosing for them? If females are actually human, then they can choose for themselves. Just because you don't like the choice they make gives you no rights to impose your ideas on their lives. It's kind of like religion. You can be catholic or muslim or whatever, but you can't force someone else to convert to your beliefs.

I guess what I'm asking is, do the posters here think females are actually human, or some kind of other species over which you should have control, like cattle? If they are then you have no business deciding what they do, or should, want. If they're not, well, good luck with that. The law in the US, Canada and Europe says otherwise. Developing nations go the same way.

April 07, 2010 10:40 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
The Catholic church debated the question of whether or not females are fully human for about 200 years. They were never able to come to a definitive conclusion on that question.

You make the argument that females should be allowed to choose marriage when they are ready, but feminists have outlawed that choice because severe legal penalties is the only way to stop young women from doing what comes naturally.

A general measure of how strong something is desired is to look at how hard the society has to work to prohibit it. Young women and their chosen husbands face extreme legal punishment by femiNazi Gestapo pigs for trying to live a full, rich, wonderful life. FemiNazi hate cannot allow women or men to have freedom.

April 07, 2010 10:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn't appeal to the Catholic Church for any sort of moral authority if I were you. For quite a long time they resisted the radical idea that the Earth was round and revolved around the sun. Raping small boys, however, seems to be okay. I don't think they have any authority to comment on much of anything, except how to conduct coverups.

April 07, 2010 12:24 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 67, now 68, Happy Birday

April 07, 2010 12:56 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"">>Young women are ready to marry and bear children when they are physically mature and ready to bear children

As is often the case, Bob, you are exactly right. Where we differ is in my belief that it is never a good idea to advocate violating the laws, any laws, of the nation where you are, no matter how stupid they are. Just go to another nation with different laws.

Anonymous age 68""

You cannot move to another nation when all have adopted similar age-of-concent/marraige laws. Open up your eyes. It's ofically 18 in 1/2 the world. Also marital rape is criminal in 1/2 the world.

This is all in the last 10 years mostly.
America made this happen. America got the world to almost universally enact anti-men feminist laws.

April 07, 2010 5:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It looks like some of the posters here have a common viewpoint that women, or females, are not actually human beings."

We recognise them as humans, but that does not mean that women and girls should have rights, nomatter what your fucking UN and American declarations say.

We want good obedient young wives. Women's rights conflicts with that. Women's rights is our enemy. Since human rights includes women's rights, atleast 1/2 of human rights is our enemy and must be destroyed.

April 07, 2010 5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What have you got to offer instead of a career that should make them choose you instead?"

They should not have the choice.
EX: In the Old Testament a vigin girl can be raped into marraige, it's not a crime according to men's societies. (Marraige by abduction).

Female choice is the enemy of men's interests.

April 07, 2010 5:26 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It's kind of like religion. You can be catholic or muslim or whatever, but you can't force someone else to convert to your beliefs."

Yes you can. Read up on the history of religion. You CAN force people to convert and you CAN force girls to marry and you CAN force girls to marry YOU (marraige by abduction). All has been done before, all has been codified into law before. Just because you're humanist (feminist) belief system is enforced upon huMANity today doesn't mean other basis of law don't exist or have not existed.

April 07, 2010 5:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I guess what I'm asking is, do the posters here think females are actually human, or some kind of other species over which you should have control, like cattle? If they are then you have no business deciding what they do, or should, want. If they're not, well, good luck with that. The law in the US, Canada and Europe says otherwise. Developing nations go the same way."

You are correct, everywhere is pro-women's rights today. It would take a nuclear war to clean up the field... or atlest make it so that BOTH men and women LOSE, rather than JUST men lose.

April 07, 2010 5:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob: can you give us the IP addresses of the pro-women's rights humanist posters?

April 07, 2010 5:32 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
Comments are processed by Blogspot/Google, so the IP address is not available.

April 07, 2010 6:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>You cannot move to another nation when all have adopted similar age-of-concent/marraige laws. Open up your eyes. It's ofically 18 in 1/2 the world. Also marital rape is criminal in 1/2 the world.


How do you stand it, Bob? Some of the, er, (least intelligent) people on the planet comment on this blog. Heh, heh.

They have not made 18 the legal consent age in the entire world. Stop making stuff up, and stop writing about things you know nothing about.

I have with me the legal codes for my state in Mexico. Up until age 14, sex with a girl is presumed to be legally punishable. Since you know nothing outside your own sick whoredom, it would make no sense to supply the translation of the legal terms used.

After age 14, only the (parents or guardians) or the girl herself can file charges for what we used to call statutory rape. Nifong types can't do a thing if the 14 year old girl and her parents approve. More on this below.

When I first came here, we had an absolutely beautiful 'married' neighbor woman, with five equally beautiful little daughters. She was 20 years old.

Here there is a difference between a private marriage, which differs from shacking up, because here they consider themselves truly married, with no government interference. Here a private marriage is called free union, and there are a lot of legal provisions for this, but no financial benefits of legal marriage during 'divorce', except support for children.

The government in this state does not allow marriage until 16, then only with parental permission. Actually, a girl can marry before age 16, but only with a judge's permission, which usually implies pregnancy, which is stigmatized here; whores are not considered normal here as they are in your whoredom.

The reason these laws are written this way is because here pregnant whores are not accepted as in the whoredom. Society thinks, as many of us do, that when a girl is ready to be sexually active, it is better she be married one way or the other, with a man to take care of her and the kids, than to raise her kids as whores do.

So, if the man who has had sex with a girl over 14, and is willing to take her as his wife or 'wife', and the parents approve, why put the man in jail for years? Stupid.

Let me add an important thing, though. The whoredom in its insanity has a law that any citizen or resident of the US who has sex with any girl anywhere in the world, even legally married by the laws in another sovereign nation, who is not yet 16 will go to Federal prison for 15 years, once the blue suited gun thugs in the US get their hands on him.

If you go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent , you will find that in Mexico City, age of consent is 12, and in 2 states of Mexico, age of consent is puberty at any age. In other states, it runs up to 18. And, following the links, you will find many nations which have very young age of consent, though this does imply consent by a girl who understands what she is doing, not forced nor extorted sex.

And, in the US, a few states have age of consent as low as 16, but in the whoredom no one minds whores any more.

Anonymous age 68

Thanks to someone for happy birthday. Life is good here, better than when I lived in the whoredom. And, for the record, I have been faithful to my 68 year old wife for 35 years.

April 07, 2010 10:16 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That HAPPY 84 yr old Grandma that raised 6 children:

Now THERE'S a woman after Bob's own heart.

April 08, 2010 6:39 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys who talk about stuff you know nothing about, remind me of men I dealt with in the past when I counseled divorced men. I subscribed to the court reporter so I could give accurate usable information to men whose mostly incompetent attorneys usually messed up rather badly.

I'd tell some doofus what judges looked for, and what his attorney should be doing for him. He'd pay no attention, and wander off, doing what he imagined, from the Fourth of July speeches he'd heard, was the right thing.

He'd come back, screaming, that things went terrible. When I asked him why he paid no attention to anything I told him, he admitted his buddies at the local bar had told him I didn't know what the * I was talking about.

I'd tell him what to do next, and in a few weeks, he'd come back, and tell me it was even worse and once again, he paid no attention because his buddies in the bar told him I was wrong.

Then, when his case was settled, and he didn't listen to one thing I told him, and he lost everything, the moron would run around telling everyone that Father's Rights guy didn't do him any good.

I stopped counseling men when I finally realized I was actually enjoying these morons' screams of pain; agony; and despair. Sounds harsh, but over the years, their constant insults, and refusal to listen, just wore through my armor.

I concluded most men deserved what happened to them. Not necessarily for bad behavior, because most American men don't behave that badly. No, for refusal to cooperate with other men for political activism; for cruelty to other men in need, and as in this case aggressive ignorance.

The anonymous anonymous who thinks we need a plan, we should stay and fight, go for it, little man. You have a lot to learn.

Anonymous age 68

April 08, 2010 7:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob's view of marriage offers nothing to women. I can see why they reject it.

April 08, 2010 2:31 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That view, unless I misunderstand, is really warped. Probably a whoredom citizen.

To receive a husband who works for her, while she has kids and stays home with them, is nothing? Yep, a whoredom citizen.

Anonymous age 68

April 08, 2010 5:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon 68: you are a smug mother fucker.

Let me help you notice a progression:

"Several countries in Eastern Europe and Scandinavia made spousal rape illegal before 1970, but other countries from the Western World outlawed it much later, mostly in the 1980s and 1990s. In the US spousal rape is illegal in all 50 states; the first state to outlaw it was South Dakota in 1975, and the last North Carolina in 1993. Other developing countries have outlawed it in the 2000s."

Notice how things have changed for the worse over time?

"In December 1993, the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights published the Declaration on the Elimination of Violence Against Women[9]. This establishes marital rape as a human rights violation. This is not fully recognized by all UN member States. In 1997, UNICEF reported that just 17 States criminalized marital rape.[8] In 2003, UNIFEM reported that more than 50 States did so.[9] In 2006, the UN Secretary General found "Marital rape may be prosecuted in at least 104 States."

1997: 17 states in the world
2003: 50 states in the world.
2006: 104 states in the world.

Notice a trend?

Here's a map:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ee/MaritalRapeCriminalizedMap.svg

Notice how men doing nothing to further their interest, and women doing something to further their interests (freedom from men) works out?

It doesn't work out in men's favor.
Now, yes we know that men are ALL enemies and will never work together. We know that we can never defeat feminism or women's rights. We know that this is the way the world is now and forever.

But maybe, just maybe, if we cannot live life as we wish, maybe we can instead defeat the world. Here's hoping for global thermonuclear war 2012 (GTnW '12)

Together, or seperatly, we can force a draw by destroying everything, rather than accepting defeat by women's rights... and destroying and hating eachother and laughing at eachother's hardships is something we men are good at, so this should be doable.

April 08, 2010 5:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"To receive a husband who works for her, while she has kids and stays home with them, is nothing?"

Male slavery. Why do you support it?
You also support men being punished for raping girls, rather than just recieving them as wives.

Proper marraige: man doesn't have to work anymore because he allready did all that and now has holdings. Pays only for female's food. Not her servant, she is his servant.

I bet you'll make fun of me now.

April 08, 2010 5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The main difference between you and me, is you're not a smug m.f., just a simple m.f., one of those simple m.f. who thinks calling someone bad names wins you debate points. It doesn't. it just proves you don't have much important to say.

As most of the critics here, you don't have a clue of the overall picture, but imagine you have some sort of advanced super knowledge.

This shit happened in history all the time. There is no straight line going up or down, depending upon your perspective. When the men get kicked around so much the system goes down, and it starts over, with the women walking three steps behind. Always. It happened five thousand years ago, and it happened in the last days of the Roman Empire.

Unwin wrote in 1934 in his book Sex and Culture, that when women have absolute sexual freedom, that first generation that gains it, lives to see the end of their civilization. Women in the Anglosphere have had complete sexual freedom for some time now.

It's over. This nation is never going back to the great life we had not too many years ago. If China stops loaning Obama money, people are going to be starving in the streets.

We have one billion people minimum in the world who are willing to die if they can take some of us with them. And, the US has only 300 million total. Not a good prospect for the future.

It is not uncommon for people to assume the current trends will last forever. History, if you actually study it, shows that things only get so bad, then something unexpected happens, and the whole thing changes.

I don't see any reason for all the fear about marital rape. You have to be married and you have to take her without her consent, for it to count. So, why is anyone marrying in these nations?

First, you should stop whining there is no place to go.This is a damned lie. I tell you the truth, and you respond with more insults and false numbers and statements which I assume you believe.

I told you in simple words why here in Mexico marital rape is not important, and all you do is come back with numbers on other countries, which you most likely know nothing about, except some numbers you found on a page, right? Have you lived in those countries? I really doubt it.

You miss the whole point. If you live in a male friendly nation, and your woman doesn't come across, you don't rape her, you dump her butt and get another woman who does give you what you want. Minimal costs involved. Yet, as I have tried to tell you guys, you keep analyzing things from the American cultural viewpoint. And,, always the insults and no real knowledge.

Go ahead. If you want to sit there whining and not take control of your life and find a place to live where you are not treated so badly, go ahead. I don't care. It's your neck. Well, not exactly neck, but whatever body part you are going to lose

You guys have mostly never lived in another country with a different culture, have you? Yet, when someone tells you is isn't like you imagine, all you can do is call names, and rattle of more meaningless statistics you don't understand, because you really believe it's the same all over.

IT'S NOT THE SAME ALL OVER, AND CALLING ME NAMES DOES NOT MAKE IT THE SAME ALL OVER.

There is life outside the US, and the legal systems are different. I explained it in great detail why it is not an issue here, and with no personal knowledge at all, you call me a smug m.f. and haven't learned a doggone thing.

Please carry on your loser's path.

Anonymous age 68

April 08, 2010 9:55 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually, I do understand you. I experienced this sort of behavior over the years.

I have been at this since the mid-60's when I got out of the Army. I have studied and read, and was an actual activist for some years. I visited the governor's office at his invitation.

Yet always men who really haven't actually done much of anything really, really, really want to be important, but they don't want to do the work.

So, when men start an activist organization, men like you come busting in, and call them names, and demand to have your own way, until they give up and go home. Men have tried to do things. We call men like you Destroyers. All you do is call names and attack.
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I have told you in great detail exactly why male rape is not a big issue here in Mexico. Do you have any knowledge or evidence I am wrong? Of course not, if you lived here, odds are 3:1 you'd know I was right. So, you go back talking about numbers you saw, mostly supplied by feminists trying to convince you successfully there is no point in leaving, IT'S THE SAME ALL OVER.

It is not people like me who stopped male activism over the last 45 years. It is people like you.

Anonymous age 68.

April 08, 2010 10:02 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Male slavery? You are so f'd up by the whoredom you confuse patriarchy with male slavery? Man as bread winner and legal and moral head of the family, and you call that slavery? Oh, you poor, poor man.

Just as it is the nature of women to become sexually active after puberty, it is the nature of men to be bread winner and legal and moral heads of their families.

In both cases, it takes a really screwed up society to defeat the normal natures of men and women.

Anonymous age 68

April 08, 2010 10:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck you anon 68. Good job slanging around "disses" while complaining, at the same time, of being called names.

Things you oppose:
Marraige of virgins by abduction.
Men raping their wives (oh he doesn't have to, he just dumps her, yea, fuck and chuck.)
Men marrying young females.

Things you and your friend in mexico support:
Men being investigated and jailed for rape.
Men slaving away for women.
Men only being able to marry 20+ year old single mothers.

Things you cry about:
Men fucking women and getting them pregnant and then leaving them (though you suggest men should do just that if they think they'll be accused of rape etc.)

Partiarchy is the rule of fathers, not men. I was never good for anyone other than daughter-owners.

In partiarchy (rule of fathers) men were executed for rape (because they didn't negotiate a huge sum to the father and screwed his princess), they were not given the girls as wives. In some partiarchy's men were castrated or their penis chopped off (perhaps the same in some martracies (rule of mothers)). Also most partiarchies send their younger men to fight in wars and die just so that the partriarches have less competition. That's not good for most men.

Today we have a gynoarchy (rule of women), what you support is partiarchy (rule of fathers) which was never good for the man on the street. What we need is whatever you would call rule of men.

April 09, 2010 10:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is not people like me who stopped male activism over the last 45 years. It is people like you."

Hope does not breed war.

April 09, 2010 10:04 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The difference between you and me is I did something about it. Yes, I spent years of activism, being constantly insulted by men who did nothing at all (except insult me) yet attacked and attacked, even though they knew very little about reality.

When I tired, I left Hell and actually went some place where men are respected, where a 68 year old man can have a 20 year old mistress. As far as I can tell, you are living in an imaginary world where you have done exactly nothing at all but fantasize about some imaginary world (Gor?) which does not and cannot exist anywhere on the planet.

Any man who thinks he can actually create or go to a place on this planet today where a man get a wife by abducting a young virgin and make her his wife by raping her, or marry young girls, or rape his wife without consequence, is not confused or misinformed. He is totally and completely mental ill.

You mock me as a fool. It would be interesting to know if you even have a wife of any kind; or a girl friend at all.

I do not mean that as a put down; it is not real smart today to marry or give women your genetic materials at all, so I for one will never criticize a man for avoiding women.

I just want to know if you actually have ANYTHING going for you, except to attack and emit hatred. Do you actually have a wife who is better than a twenty year old Type I unwed mother? Based on your anger level, it doesn't seem likely. Yet, you virtually foam at the mouth when I actually promote SOMETHING A MAN CAN ACTUALLY DO IN THE REAL WORLD.

I am doing something that can be done. You are talking insane drivel that simply cannot be done on the planet at this time.

I cannot speak for Bob. Bob ADVOCATES some of the same things you do. But, I have never felt he really believes it is going to happen at the present time. Nor that he thinks anyone who does something less, because he knows what he advocates is not possible at this time, is a total fool, as you do. Bob has always seemed on the surface to be a bit of an extremist, but one who reads him long enough realizes he has never lost touch with reality, which you certainly have. He proposes many of the same things you do, but he makes it clear, at least to me, that he knows it cannot really happen now.

Let me say we do have a problem with the word patriarchy. Your description of patriarchy seems to refer to Old Testament days (and even then patriarchy was better than anything else they had, I assume you don't know what the choices were.). Patriarchy at its finest occurred during the days when the USA grew to be, temporarily, the strongest, best nation in the history of the world.

One thing I learned long ago is not to argue with truly mentally ill people, and your insistence anyone who does not accept your world of marriage by abduction; wife rape; and young wives, is a fool, proves you are mentally ill. Go pound sand.

As far as saying I diss people, only people who attack while proving they have no real knowledge of much of anything. I tell what it's like here in Mexico, and people who have no idea at all what happens here, essentially deny it and call me names. Smug m.f.???

Anonymous age 68

April 09, 2010 1:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>Hope does not breed war.

The whole point is there is going to be no war, at least not by men fighting misandry.. Men will not cooperate to do anything about misandry, not at all to mention fight a war.

Anonymous age 68

April 09, 2010 1:56 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Sam Keen on Patriarchy

From Fire in the Belly, on Being a Man, by Sam Keen, Bantam Books, 1991 (P-196)

“Ideological feminism, by contrast, is animated by a spirit of resentment, the tactic of blame, and the desire for vindictive triumph over men that comes out of the dogmatic assumption that women are the innocent victims of a male conspiracy. Perhaps the best rule of thumb to use in detecting ideological feminism is to pay close attention to the ideas, moral sentiments, arguments, and mythic history that cluster around the notion of “patriarchy.” “Patriarchy” is the devil term, the code word for the evil empire of men, the masculine conspiracy that has dominated human history since the time of the fall. All the great agonies of our time are attributed to the great Satan of patriarchy. The rule of men is solely responsible for poverty, injustice, violence, warfare, technomania, pollution, and the exploitation of the Third Wold.”

April 09, 2010 2:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Any man who thinks he can actually create or go to a place on this planet today where a man [can] ... marry young girls, or rape his wife without consequence, is not confused or misinformed. He is totally and completely mental ill."

Yes, that is exactly what I have been saying. That is what the maps I showed you have said aswell (ofcourse you claimed the maps were false in your previous response, but now you agree that men cannot go somewhere where they can marry young females and rape their wives without consequence.) It seems that now you, I, and the aformention maps agree. You have learned something I suppose?

Indeed, it is hopeless for evil bad men such as those who have a similar character to my own. The world is a woman's world. Hopefully it will end if it does not change for the better for evil men.

You are a somewhat good man, you can cope: you have places to go. I am not and do not.

April 10, 2010 1:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The whole point is there is going to be no war, at least not by men fighting misandry.. Men will not cooperate to do anything about misandry, not at all to mention fight a war."

They can fight eachother and bring the women with them. That's what usually happens.

Notice how few women's rights warzones have? They have no rights for anyone. Atleast the women aren't acendant.

April 10, 2010 1:07 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Based on your anger level, it doesn't seem likely. Yet, you virtually foam at the mouth when I actually promote SOMETHING A MAN CAN ACTUALLY DO IN THE REAL WORLD.

I am doing something that can be done. You are talking insane drivel that simply cannot be done on the planet at this time."

Anger? I am not angry. Why do you suggest that I am? What is a type one this or that? I want what I want and I know what it is.

Perhaps you think that you are in a debate? You are not. You are talking to a wall with, scralled upon it, always the same words: young virgin females as wives, marrage by abduction legal and practiced, marital rape unpunished.

Or as it has been otherwise put: Death To women's Rights. Viva Men's Liberties.

April 10, 2010 1:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The rule of men is solely responsible for poverty, injustice, violence, warfare, technomania, pollution, and the exploitation of the Third Wold."

Technomania certainly, and thank God for that. Our lives are a paradise now, save for the lack of good young females to play with.

April 10, 2010 1:17 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cheer up, the world will end on May 21, 2011.

April 10, 2010 8:57 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>you agree that men cannot go somewhere where they can marry young females and rape their wives without consequence.)

Nor do I see why that is important to anyone.

Likewise, young females is an ambiguous term. If you mean 8 year olds like Mohamed, yeah, you probably cannot marry them anywhere in the world. Oh, the horror of it all!!!

If you mean prime, tender 16 year olds, yes, you can!!!!! Get yourself a prime, tender 16 year old in rural Mexico, or Thailand, and thrash away till you have a blister on the end. You will forget all about your 8 year old babies. Tell us just how many prime, tender 16 year olds you have slept with, I think that's reasonable information to ask.

To be fair, I will say to date, none. I am married 35 years, and it is still not a sexless marriage. People tell me my wife is the most attractive woman of her age in the county, and it is true. If I were a widow here, and wanted to, I could eventually have a hot 16 year old lover, perhaps even a mistress which means she is paid to not live in my house. Yeah, she might be an unwed mother, which seems to really piss you off, but I'd rather have a little kid I can evaluate in advance, rather than take chances with the unknown. So, not only how many 16 year olds have you had, but also just how many virgins?

Maybe you can't go places where you can rape your wife, but you can go places like here where nothing is going to happen to you if you 'rape' your wife, which I explained in great detail. And, you can go lots of places where if your 'wife' doesn't give it when you want, you just replace her. The only people who have a real need met by raping a wife, when they can get it on demand without rape, are men with an inherently cruel nature who want to make women suffer. Men like that tend not to last long anywhere in the world.

>>you have places to go. I am not and do not.

Exactly my point. That is because I deal with reality, and try to find the best deal there is available, even if it does not meet a very long detailed list of the perfect imaginary world. It is called Accentuating the Positive.

American men have long been compared to sheep. Most people understand when a wolf attacks a flock of sheep, they have no way to fight. They get in a tight clump, each one trying to be the one on the bottom in the center, so the wolf eats his brother.

That analogy is absolutely true.

But, there is another less known reason AM are like sheep.

We had sheep when I was a kid in the 50's. If a sheep falls in a ditch and is trapped on her back for a while, I never did it on purpose to find out how long, but probably 30 minutes or an hour, that sheep is going to die. Not right away. That sheep will never get up and walk again, and will never eat or drink again. Just lies there until she dies of thirst, even though there is nothing wrong with her.

Unlike their grandfathers who fought to the death for what they believe in, many AM raised by their mommies are sheep of the second class.

"Baaa, no point in going to another country, this map says they are all the same. Baaa, Men who live there say it isn't so, but of course they are smug m.f. so I can't believe them. No, better just to sit here and suffer where I am than to go where there be dragons, and where I still can't marry 8 year olds by abducting them and raping them."

Frankly, this is for my good, because none of you AS will come into my turf and screw things up by raping little girls and wives. I am the only NA in a 750 square mile area, and I like it like that. I have had offers of 20 year old, very attractive unwed mothers to be my mistress, and yes, they knew I was married.

Anonymous age 68

April 10, 2010 9:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Notice how anon 68 now accuses us of wanting to screw 8 year olds.

The average age for menarche world wide is about 13.5 . Usually females gain the ability to have children at age 12, 13, 14.

Not 8.
Not 16.
Not 18.
Not 20.

Some person who is not 68.

April 11, 2010 12:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They want you to provide for their kids.

April 11, 2010 12:10 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the guy who wants our IP addresses: I'm with Verizon DSL in Lansing.

Now what?

April 11, 2010 2:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>Notice how anon 68 now accuses us of wanting to screw 8 year olds.

Some years ago, while I was visiting family in Amarillo, a medical person came to visit. He reported his clinic had seen an 8 year old girl who was pregnant.

Human beings in all characteristics are on a Bell Distribution Curve. In my opinion, it is always a mistake to make decisions based on averages, since most people aren't average. There may be a girl who had her puberty at age 8, and WANTS to have sex at age 12 or 13. A proper society will provide her with an older husband at that age when she thinks she is ready, not 16 and not 20. And, he will be 25 or older, so he can support her and the kids they have. That society will supply information to young girls in a manner they want a mature husband, not being taught by her peers that she is supposed to get pregnant by a 13 year old boy.

I do thank you for giving numbers, not 68. When people say things like "young women" or "young girls", they leave it open to guesses what they mean, then they are unhappy when someone guesses wrong. Generally, over the years, the men who have advocated marriage by rape tend to want 8 or 10 year olds if they have reached puberty. My guess is you don't know that, as you don't know much else except your own "wonderful ideas".

There doesn't seem to be much left to say that hasn't been said here.

Where we differ is, I prefer to deal with the best available circumstances. It is good to discuss, in a hypothetical manner the ideal society for men.

However, you men raised in the whoredom have no grasp of the real nature of, not only women, but also men. Not even your own. Your current beliefs are those of male sheeple, (The ones I described who give up all hope) living most or all of your life in a misandrist society.

Both men and women tend to respond to the society they live in. We tend to be products of our cultures unless something happens to change us.

Men reacted to Old Testament patriarchy in a certain way, but note that was a bunch of sheepherders.

The highest level of society known in history came in the US when men responded to a modern patriarchy, which showed the ideal man is a man who is placed in a society where the man is the breadwinner and the legal and moral head of the house, with a wife who is faithful because of what society will do to her if she isn't, once she has willingly entered the marriage.

And, girls who knew the sky was falling on their heads if they became unwed mothers.

Not men as owner of "young women", whatever that means, who can take a wife by violently abducting and raping her. Who doesn't have to work because he owns the women and they must work for him. Those are fantasies of men who were raised in a whoredom where any woman at any time can have any man thrown in jail for years, and men have no self-respect as men, except to fantasize about revenge.

The "68" is important here, because I lived in a modern patriarchy in my youth, and know what I am writing about. All you have is revised history generated by stupid journalists and man-hating feminists, and if you are much younger than I am, that is all you have ever heard. In schools; on TV; in the movies; in churches.

April 11, 2010 3:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>the guy who wants our IP addresses: I'm with Verizon DSL in Lansing.

>>Now what?

Actually, anyone who has followed the actual things posted here knows we don't give a flying **** about IP's. The problem is we get man-hating lying Canadian feminists here; we get all sorts of people posting ugly names and insults, and they post in total anonymity.

That would be okay, but if we respond to two of them who are different people, because we think they are the same person, they get all stupid about it.

The only reason IP's came up is to try to sort out one person from another when they are playing nasty games, or so we can know when two postings are the same or different people.

Which is why, being a smug m.f. I use a distinct identifier, anonymous age nn, and have done so for several years on blogs such as this. If it were not for evil things man-hating feminists, such as the man-hating, lying Canadian feminist, do to men they can identify, I'd be using my given name.

Also, the Canadian man-hating, lying feminist, sometimes puts my identifier on false postings. See the very first posting on this comment thread. April 3, 2010 7:39 am. I did not make that posting.

I like Dick Masterson's approach. All postings have a hash which he calls "man hash" which will be the same for the same IP, so such things cannot happen there. As Bob has said, he does not have access to any information on this blog.

Bob always uses Bob. Mario always uses Mario. The only problem came when clicking on it did something scary. I always use anonymous age 68. You know I am the same person in all cases, except when the evil Canadian women files a false posting.

If you mind being confused with someone else, it is your job to use a distinct identifier as I do. If you don't, then STFU if someone confuses you with someone else.

Anonymous age 68

April 11, 2010 3:32 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

NOte to anonymous:
Your anti-muslim hate fiction comment was off topic and misandrist. Please review Bob's rules for comments on the left column of The World According to Bob

I also deleted your "Those people over there" comment. It was off topic and misandrist too.

April 12, 2010 6:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did the anti muslim person say?

April 12, 2010 7:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you think of Jihadwatch.org?
Here's another contribution:

"
Author Profile Page ElizaDoolittle replied to comment from Isabellathecrusader | April 9, 2010 2:05 PM | Reply

Rock on Isabella!
Clever lyrical reference even though there are no words for forms of the dehumanizing torture that only mozoids can come up with.I look look forward to the day when these women and girls get pissed, en masse. Some of the adult muslima should try the old "internal razor trick" that saboteur Korean hookers used in the WWII era. Some American GIs who used their "services" certainly never forgot those gals, I'm sure."

http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/04/13-year-old-yemeni-bride-dies-of-injuries-to-genitals-heavy-bleeding.html#comments

This is the normal mainstream thought of most people in america and england.

April 12, 2010 7:46 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
"Jihadwatch" expects people to believe that Islamic husbands are murdering their wives by engaging in sex. Total COWshit!

Hate organizations who publish such lies should be obliterated.

April 12, 2010 8:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's hard to say whether some commenters here are actually dearies trying to make men look bad while pretending to be wacked out men.

But, one thing is apparent. Many men have no idea why and when militant feminism is allowed to take over a society. Militant feminism can go anywhere, sort of like killer bees, but doing greater damage.

There is one thing absolutely necessary before the most vicious man-haters can actually take over a society.

Women as a group tend to be insecure. They want security almost as much as they want anything. That is why when they take over a society in its last days, they use their political power to protect themselves, even against their own evil deeds. Thus, we have adulterous women who get the house; the car; the kids; alimony; and child support.

That is why they will also marry a man in a true patriarchy, and have his children, and cook his meals, and give him sex, in exchange for him taking care of her.

That may be also why so many US women are so unhappy today. In spite of their open hatred for men, they don't have the protection of a manly man.

We read on DGM about women making $100,000 a year in good jobs, at times lying awake at night, worrying about "What If". What if they lose that job.

Before women take over, and toss men out just to get another one, like changing shoes, there is something society has to provide.

It is called The Substitute Husband. Note that feminism did not get a good start in the US until LBJ supplied all women with a substitute husband in the form of a guaranteed monthly check for any mother, in the 60's. The grass on his grave should be tall; green; and lush.

As soon as women realized they were not going to be sleeping under a bridge no matter what they did, they started treating men like absolute crap. "A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle" was not a joke.

Everywhere there is welfare for lazy whores, men have no rights because women don't need any specific man.

Here in Mexico, there is a modest amount of help for mothers. Enough to keep them from starving, just barely, IF they have a place to live. Not enough that women casually toss out perfectly good husbands. And, Mexico is running out of money for social programs, since it almost all comes from Pemex, the nationalized oil business.

So, marital rape and no-fault divorce are not going to run rampant in Mexico. Not within our lifetimes. Both men and women here tell me the same thing. Women tolerate a lot because they know they can't earn enough money to support themselves and their kids.

That is why when some man says, "Baaa, there is no place to go. Baaa, it's the same everywhere." I realize they have not a clue.

Anonymous age 68

April 12, 2010 10:21 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Age 68, you say that when women gain sexual freedom society collapses. Could you elaborate on that, and make the connection clearer? Is it men's disenfranchisement, loss of sense of head of household status, what?

April 12, 2010 11:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/study-abroad/100317/the-weapon-too-few-talk-about

You need to explain to these women that sex is normal and pleasurable. They don't seem to get it.

April 12, 2010 11:50 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
First, I note that all the females in your photo hate propaganda did not choose the AK-47 treatment that happened to many of the MEN in their villages, tribes, or cities. If they trade sex for survival when all the men are getting killed, that is akin to prostitution, and a benefit for the females not shared by men.

Second, The hate spewed by western feminists is unrelated to the photos or the lives of these obviously well fed females.

Third, African women are, on average, very promiscuous. Sex with men, getting their vaginas used, is an important part of their lives and pleasure. Its hard to rape a woman who usually demands sex.

April 12, 2010 12:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Google sexculture.zip and the entire book is available, I believe it is a legal download; if not let me know. Unwin clear back in 1934 wrote the book Sex and Culture.

This is a massive download, because it includes PDF; .doc; and text, maybe more formats.

Also, this book is a major cure for insomnia. I still haven't finished the entire book, though I have got to the major points.

The shortest summary is, a society can have sexual energy or social energy, but not both. Period.

I shouldn't have to even explain that, but on this blog with these commenters, I suppose I must.

Social energy builds bridges and good highways; cures diseases; send ships to the moon; protects women from rape, and kids from violent abuse; and spreads liberty around the planet.

Sexual energy bangs a lot, of course. But, it also degenerates to tribal warfare (think Cripps and Bloods) and the poverty of matriarchy.

If you want a feel for the future of the USA, fill out your next of kin papers, and tonight around midnight visit your closest ghetto, which has had sexual freedom and matriarchy for quite a while now. (And, no, it isn't because of the skin color; it doesn't matter. The only reason more blacks are in jail percentage wise than whites is because poor black women first grabbed the Substitute Husband when LBJ offered it.)

Has anyone noticed all our jobs going overseas? We could nit-pick, but this is normal for a society with complete sexual freedom for women.

Creativity and business energy goes away.

This economic collapse, and collapse of male employment? Oh, my, what a total surprise. NOT!!

Religion changes.

Relationships between men and women change, but that one is obvious.

He says the first generation of women to experience complete sexual freedom will ALWAYS see the end of their civilization.

This is not theory. He studied a large number of societies in ancient and semi-ancient and modern societies, and found no exceptions.

Anonymous age 68

April 12, 2010 1:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep, women don't care how many men are maimed or killed. All they care is if they get raped, since they do not believe men have value or worth, or feelings.

Note that this sort of thing only seems to happen where modern patriarchy was weakened or destroyed.

Is everyone aware that several thousand years ago, Africa was the intellectual center of the world? Things seem to have changed since the patriarchy was destroyed by women taking over the political system, heh, heh.

In fact, that is our future.

Anonymous age 68

April 12, 2010 1:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't agree with most of the article, but I just thought I'd throw this out there:

My boyfriend told me a story about a guy (let's call him Joe) who sterilized himself because he no longer wished to produce anymore children or be locked in wedlock and just wanted to have casual relationships. So, he entered into a casual relationship with a woman, which he enjoyed.

One day, this woman informed him she was pregnant. Turns out she'd gone and slept with some random man without using protection in order to impregnate herself. She'd planned to entrap Joe into a marriage in order to essentially leech off of him by impregnating herself with another man. Little did she know that Joe was actually sterile.

It needs to be mentioned that Joe had always used a condom with this woman and hadn't informed her of his sterility, nor were they married, so it's not like it mattered. Needless to say, Joe called this woman out on her lies and cut off all ties with her.

Anyway, it's people like this woman who really get on my nerves. I can't help but feel like it's no longer women who are being discriminated against in this modern age, but men. Sure, I think your views are discriminatory towards women and thus can't really agree with them, but you do make some interesting points, Bob.

And while I do prefer women over men (in terms of sexuality), I still hate feminazis. I want to have my rights, but I want men to have rights too. Down with false rape charges and exclusive female custody of children, a man's property, etc.!

Anonymous woman, age 21

April 12, 2010 3:33 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
Thanks for the story. That old "I'm pregnant so we have to get married" is a very old ploy. My mother snared my father with it. Then the pregnancy suddenly "miscarried" after the wedding. That happens so often. Three decades later some bitch tried it on me. I told her to fuck off. Her "pregnancy" suddenly "miscarried" again. DUH!

April 12, 2010 3:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hLMBIEcDqMoer9MpHkuBSMNQfw6wD9ET8VBO0

And his website:

http://erlyndon.com/default.aspx

April 12, 2010 3:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks for the good words, age 21. Also nice to identify yourself, albeit anonymously, it gets very confusing with no clues.

I am not the type to flatter, but you show signs of being somewhat smarter than most commenters here.

I think most intelligent men would never have rebelled if it weren't for the extreme issues, including those you mentioned.

Anonymous age 21

April 12, 2010 3:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"That is why they will also marry a man in a true patriarchy, and have his children, and cook his meals, and give him sex, in exchange for him taking care of her."

Give him sex? GIVE? As in this is something he cannot take?

And that's in a "partraicy".

No thanks.

I wouldn't want to be the bottom bitch and the wife the pimp.

Give sex.
Give.

Pimp takes sex.
He doesn't have to beg.
They're the only men left.

April 12, 2010 5:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Women tolerate a lot because they know they can't earn enough money to support themselves and their kids.

That is why when some man says, "Baaa, there is no place to go. Baaa, it's the same everywhere." I realize they have not a clue."

The character of women is the same the world over.

Case in point: the women CHOOSE not to throw the men in mexico out because the men benifit the women, but once the men stop or a better deal comes women's way... women choose to not have you around any more.

Women control society.

April 12, 2010 5:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Social energy builds bridges and good highways; cures diseases; send ships to the moon; protects women from rape, and kids from violent abuse; and spreads liberty around the planet."

Why should females be protected from rape? All that does is help them increase the price by the threat of the murder of men or imprisonment of men.

Virgin girls should be raped into marraige (marraige by abduction), and then raped by their forceful husband in marraige, and opressed and such. To solve the tribal problem just clone girls so there's enough to always go around.

In your "partrachy" men who rape sweet virgin girls get executed. Fuck that.

I don't want your "partrachy" '68. It only benifits good white-knight female worshipers (good men): something I never wish to be.

April 12, 2010 5:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>The character of women is the same the world over.

>>Case in point: the women CHOOSE not to throw the men in mexico out because the men benifit the women, but once the men stop or a better deal comes women's way... women choose to not have you around any more.

>>Women control society.

###

>>It only benifits good white-knight female worshipers (good men): something I never wish to be.


###

>>Pimp takes sex.
He doesn't have to beg.
They're the only men left.


It is hard to tell if these three postings are the same person or not. No matter. I said I was not going to argue with the mentally ill, and those postings are the product of mentally ill person(s). (Mentally ill referring to people who have no grasp of reality.) It is obvious you know nothing about Mexico, yet you tell us what it is like there.



Sorry, woman age 21, I can't believe I said Anonymous age 21. I hope you know it was a stupid typo.


Anonymous age 68

April 12, 2010 10:06 PM  
Anonymous Pattaya Girls Blog said...

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April 13, 2010 1:53 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mentally ill == Someone who doesn't agree with you.

You want rapist men in jail, rather than them marrying the girl they screwed (which is what the bible says).

You have a good friend who's job it is to put said men in jail.

You want men in jail for having relations with girls under the age of 16, even thought they come of age at 12 to 14.

You accept that men like you can only have "type I" (whatever the fuck that is) 20+ year old unwed single mothers (where the whole point is for you to look after her children). You can have that anywhere.

You admit and accept that if the women in mexico had the same support that they do in america (social programmes etc) they WOULD dump the men: ergo women in mexico are of the same character as women in america.

You think this is a mega improvement.
You think that those who want more are mentally ill.

April 13, 2010 7:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

KICK ASS! Fucking hell Why do men who enjoy 15-16 year olds you know get labeled PAEDOPHILES fuck that's fucking bullshit i've had PLENTY of 12-16 YEAR OLDS come up to me ASKING-BEGGING-PLEADING with me to screw them and I'VE TURNED THEM ALL DOWN!

I'M NOT GETTING MESSED UP WITH THAT SHIT!

April 13, 2010 9:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Age 68, the person who keeps on about raping virgins, marriage by abduction etc. sometimes signs himself "mikeeUSA." A Google on that might be helpful. If you see references to young wives, sweet little wives, obedient/submissive wives, marital rape (in favor of), odds are it's the same person.

April 13, 2010 3:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>Mentally ill == Someone who doesn't agree with you.

Not at all. You may not know the difference between "disagrees with me" and "mentally ill" but I do.

I view people as mentally ill who simply do not grasp reality. And, you do not.

You want something that is not available on the planet. There is no where you can go and rape a young woman into a wife. There are several places where that happens, but those people also kill foreigners at the first chance, so you can't do it. Especially they kill foreigners who rape their young girls; that's their job to abduct and rape the young girls.

There is no where on the planet an ordinary man who is 68 years old can go and expect with certainty to get a young virgin.

Sane, rational men do not find the right to rape a wife to be high on the list of important things. Just as it is insane to believe a real wife can be raped, likewise it is insane to want to rape one. A real wife, when you ask for sex, politely, she beats herself on the chest and runs to the bedroom. Sane husbands find that to be satisfactory, since there is no need to rape a willing sex partner. In Mexico, since women know if they don't give sex to their husbands when he wants it, he can dump her, they tend to give sex when the husband wants it. There is no need to rape her, except for cruelty.

There is nothing wrong with wanting the impossible. Bob advocates many of the same things you advocate, but over the long period of time I have been reading this blog he has never lost touch with reality. Though he advocates things that are currently illegal, he reminds us from time to time that he does not actually advocate illegal acts. There is a difference between advocating major social changes which would legalize things which are currently illegal, and advocating illegal acts.

Your expressed desire for a society which allows you to rape young virgins and they accept being your wife, while macabre, does not make you mentally ill.

Your wish to find a society where you can rape your wife, while macabre, does not make you mentally ill.

Your wish to find a society where a 68 year old man can with some certainty get a young virgin does not make you mentally ill.

Your mocking me for a damned fool -- which I think is an accurate statement -- for urging men to move to Mexico for a more male friendly society, just because men aren't allowed to rape young virgins to make them wives in Mexico, is mental illness. There is no place on the planet where you can do that, and it is probable you haven't done it.

Your mocking me for a damned fool -- which I think is an accurate statement -- for urging men to move to Mexico for a more male friendly society, just because 68 year old men might end up mating with a 20 year old Type I unwed mother in Mexico, is mental illness. 68 year old men where you live can't mate with 20 year old Type I unwed mothers, in part because there are virtually no Type I unwed mothers where you live.

Your mocking me for a damned fool -- which I think is an accurate statement -- for urging men to move to Mexico for a more male friendly society, just because men can't rape their wives in Mexico, is mental illness. And, ditto for changing views and dismissing the ability to dump a wife who won't give sex as f*ck and chuck.

I am going to repeat what I said. It's okay if you don't have a woman in your life. It's okay if you've never had sex with a woman. I advise that in the Anglosphere. But before you mock someone for a damned fool for his advice, you should have at least as much as he says you can get in Mexico. There is no indication you have anything at all. No wife. No 20 year old Type I unwed mother. No young virgin.

Nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing.

Nothing.

As far as Type I Unwed Mother, try Googling. You haven't heard of it because there are almost none of them in the Anglosphere.

April 13, 2010 5:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>Age 68, the person who keeps on about raping virgins, marriage by abduction etc. sometimes signs himself "mikeeUSA." A Google on that might be helpful. If you see references to young wives, sweet little wives, obedient/submissive wives, marital rape (in favor of), odds are it's the same person.

I have heard of him. I thought he was in prison or an institution. Thanks!

I went ahead and posted what I had written so people can understand why I use the term mental illness.

While I am convinced a majority of young American women are insane, that is a product of a society which teaches them a psychotic view of the world, rather than an individual insanity.

I do not use the word insane lightly in reference to men, but he is definitely mentally ill, which I just defined in considerable detail in the previous posting.

Did I forget to add my Anonymous age 68? Sorry if so.

Anonymous age 68

When someone is that psychotic, one must contemplate they may attack you. If you want to know what would happen to him if he came to Mexico to get me, Google Mad Dog. The only reason he isn't in prison for a long stay is complex diplomatic issues between Mexico and the US.

April 13, 2010 5:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

>>KICK ASS! Fucking hell Why do men who enjoy 15-16 year olds you know get labeled PAEDOPHILES fuck that's fucking bullshit i've had PLENTY of 12-16 YEAR OLDS come up to me ASKING-BEGGING-PLEADING with me to screw them and I'VE TURNED THEM ALL DOWN!

>>I'M NOT GETTING MESSED UP WITH THAT SHIT!

You are wise!

My theory on using the term pedophilia to describe sex with a sexually mature person, while pedophilia by definition involves sexually immature persons, is that feminists want girls to get pregnant without a husband.

I can't prove it, of course.

Traditional societies allowed sexually mature girls to marry older men who can support them. Yet,that is prohibited, and girls are brainwashed to look at older men as perverts, not great husbands. So, they all get knocked up with no way to get a good husband.

As long as our laws are stupid, avoid them like the plague. As I have said, here in Mexico, if a man will marry a young girl who is pregnant, and the parents accept it, all is well -- if you don't run afoul of the US law on 15 year olds.

Anonymous age 67

April 13, 2010 6:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Radio yapper Mike Savage has been bitching that White people nowdays shun marriage and child-bearing. Claims non-whites especially Muslims, will dominate the world by 2050.
Savage wants traditional marriages where White couples will whelp large numbers of kids --like that Dugger family of 20 in Arkansas.

April 14, 2010 7:07 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to readers:
Comments that are primarily about Islam are way off topic and are being deleted. Thank you for your interest.

April 14, 2010 11:02 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As long as our laws are stupid, avoid them like the plague. As I have said, here in Mexico, if a man will marry a young girl who is pregnant, and the parents accept it, all is well -- if you don't run afoul of the US law on 15 year olds."

Fuck that, fuck you, and fuck your United States law.

Over 15 is not a "young girl" by the way.
6 is a young girls.
12 is a young woman
23 is a woman
35 is a WOman
45 is an old woman.

April 14, 2010 2:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob: am I insane as Anon 68 claims?
Why does he wish I were in a mental asylum or a prison? Why does he imagine that I'm going to "come get him" like "mad dog the bounty hunter" and is ready to "take care of me" if that fantasy of his occured?

Marraige by abduction occurs in Christian Ethiopia (70 percent of all marraiges are by abduction (the marraiges are to young women (12, 13, 14 year olds) ofcourse), rural muslim-terrorist Turkey, Orthodox Christian and Muslim-Terrorist caucuses (in and under russia).

In mexico men who rape their wives are subject to criminal prosecution. Anon 68 suggests that a man should just dump his wife, and that there is no need NOT to have marital rape laws (he supports marital rape laws because he is a GOOD MAN).

Anon 68 notes that both Bob and I share the same values but somehow I am insane because I _Advocate_ said anti-women's rights values and Bob _merely_ advocates the same values BUT with a boiler plate clause attached about not advocating sedition etc.

Anon 68: Men SHOULD: _TAKE_ young virgin females (12, 13, 14 years old) as wives (marraige by abduction as supported in the Bible) if they decide they don't want to marry by paying off father (also a good way to get a wife, when men were not scum bag good men). Men _SHOULD_ then rape their wives.

Fuck your laws Anon. Everyone who enforces the anti-(bad)-man, pro-women's rights laws SHOULD be sent to burn in hell. Fuck your global feminist empire which every GOOD man supports to one degree or another.

April 14, 2010 2:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob: How should the United States of America be delt with? (And similar pro-women nations around the world and their people)

April 14, 2010 2:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob I don't believe the Christian faith believes in stoning women who have comitted adultery. I believe Jesus did away with this tradition here. (John 8:7)

April 16, 2010 9:50 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
Christian theology the topic of The World According to Bob. Nor does Bob does not argue over Christian theology. Such debates and arguments have been a justification for wars among men for thousands of years. There are several thousand different Christian denominations, each of which has its own different interpretation. You are welcome to your own opinion on that topic.

April 17, 2010 6:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am familiar with that specific event, and a truly important part of that story is DON'T DO IT AGAIN, B***H!

Anonymous age 68

April 17, 2010 11:32 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just for your information, I am digging around in the genealogy pages open to the public by the Latter Day Saints. I found the marriage data for my wife's maternal great-grandfather and great-grandmother here in rural Mexico.

They were married in church in 1890. He was 18 and she was 14. My wife's grandmother was born around 1893, I am not yet sure if her brother came first or not.

Anonymous age 68

April 18, 2010 11:01 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I found them. My wife's grandmother came almost one year to the date after they married, mama age 14, age 15 when her daughter was baptized. Dad was 18/19.

Grandma had her first kid when she was 27. I think she was a big ugly, heh, heh.

Anonymous age 68

April 21, 2010 8:34 AM  

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