Fathers, its up to you
If you are a father of a “little princess.” daughter, this message is for you. You may have read some of Bob's articles on marriage and families, but you think you know better. You want your “little princess” to be “a success.” You want “the best” for her. You have been taught that she should “stay in school” and go to college. You really believe, despite all the evidence, that somehow she is going to be different from her mother. Little Princess is not going to have overpowering sexual urges that open her legs for some biker she doesn't know the name of. You think she is going to be a virgin when she finally marries at age 32, after which she will leave her very successful career to have several children and a good life. You are wrong on every one of those assumptions.
Your Little Princess is just like her mother. She wants a hard man between her legs, and nothing she tells you, and nothing you tell her, is going to stop her from getting it. If you keep your head buried in feminist dogma, this is your daughter's story. The details change, but the story is always the same:
Posted on Answerology.com at about 5:45 PM on 5-20-2010.
The details change, but the story is always the same. We have these baby abandon laws in US states now because so many young mothers were dumping their unwanted babies in trash dumpsters. Most of them get an abortion, or 2 or 3, by the time they are out of college. According to government statistics, the average American “Little Princess,” starts getting laid at age 14.8. By “average” it means that half of the girls start getting laid younger than that. By the time she is 30 she has soaked up the sperm from a hundred or more men, some of whom she got the name of. She looks around in panic and remembers she was supposed to be married. A few of the sluts manage to corral a man, but most don't. About half the next generation is born to unmarried mothers. She has a great job as a secretary where her MA in Women's Studies is no advantage at all. Her life is a disaster.
Is this the future you fathers really want for your Little Princess? Is it really what you want?
In functional traditional families young women wait for marriage because they know that marriage is something that will actually happen soon. The traditional young woman learns basic education, and learns home economics, cooking, sewing, cleaning, banking, borrowing, budgeting, saving, hospitality, and child care. Her parents help her find a good husband, probably 10 years older, who can support her and her family, a good man who can take care of the cravings between her legs and the empty womb she lusts to fill. A good father knows that Little Princess is a grown woman ready for marriage shortly after puberty. A good father supports and helps his Little Princess to become a good wife and mother for his granddaughter and grandson.
A good father should expect to “give away” his “little princess” when she marries, shortly after she matures past puberty. Giving away the bride to a good man is the mark of success for fathers of girls. That should be your ultimate goal as her fathers. You should be guiding her away from the false feminist failure life that schools and society now tells everyone she is supposed to have. As her father, you should work hard to guide her into marriage and family when she is ready, in her early teenage years when her body demands sex and babies, when she is young and strong and can bear the stress of pregnancy without failure, when she won't be a single mother leaving your granddaughter at the hospital or fire station.
Don't be a failure father like so many other fathers of failure feminist 30 something bitches. If you follow tradition, and Bob's advice, by the time your married grown up Princess is 30 something she will be preparing her daughter for marriage, and enrolling in a college to continue her education. She will have it all, because she did it in the order that Mother Nature provides for her.
Tell the anti-family hate monger bitches to pound sand. They aren't going to take away your family and your grandchildren. Your grandson won't be left at some hospital or fire station. Talk to your Little Princess about life and how to be a success. Talk to her mother. Help Little Princess be a success, to be a wife and mother, to live a full, rich, wonderful life.
Dads, its up to you. Are you going to help your daughters to have a wonderful life, or hurt them by barring marriage to a good man and pushing them into abortions, relationships, and a failed (man's) career? Dads, its up to you to save your daughters.
Your Little Princess is just like her mother. She wants a hard man between her legs, and nothing she tells you, and nothing you tell her, is going to stop her from getting it. If you keep your head buried in feminist dogma, this is your daughter's story. The details change, but the story is always the same:
Posted on Answerology.com at about 5:45 PM on 5-20-2010.
made a huge mistake, how can I take it back?
I go to school away from home so its a lot easier for me to have a crazy life, last year i got pregnant, when i went back home to see my family during the summer i was barely noticing but they thought i was putting on weight; i gave birth before the holidays but i was so afraid of my familys reaction that left my baby at the hospital (i dont know who the father is) i went home and everything is normal; this mothers day it finally hit me what i had done; how can i tell my family what i did; get support from them, and how can i get my baby back, how do i find out who has my baby and if shes in good hands
Asked by Female, 22-25
The details change, but the story is always the same. We have these baby abandon laws in US states now because so many young mothers were dumping their unwanted babies in trash dumpsters. Most of them get an abortion, or 2 or 3, by the time they are out of college. According to government statistics, the average American “Little Princess,” starts getting laid at age 14.8. By “average” it means that half of the girls start getting laid younger than that. By the time she is 30 she has soaked up the sperm from a hundred or more men, some of whom she got the name of. She looks around in panic and remembers she was supposed to be married. A few of the sluts manage to corral a man, but most don't. About half the next generation is born to unmarried mothers. She has a great job as a secretary where her MA in Women's Studies is no advantage at all. Her life is a disaster.
Is this the future you fathers really want for your Little Princess? Is it really what you want?
In functional traditional families young women wait for marriage because they know that marriage is something that will actually happen soon. The traditional young woman learns basic education, and learns home economics, cooking, sewing, cleaning, banking, borrowing, budgeting, saving, hospitality, and child care. Her parents help her find a good husband, probably 10 years older, who can support her and her family, a good man who can take care of the cravings between her legs and the empty womb she lusts to fill. A good father knows that Little Princess is a grown woman ready for marriage shortly after puberty. A good father supports and helps his Little Princess to become a good wife and mother for his granddaughter and grandson.
A good father should expect to “give away” his “little princess” when she marries, shortly after she matures past puberty. Giving away the bride to a good man is the mark of success for fathers of girls. That should be your ultimate goal as her fathers. You should be guiding her away from the false feminist failure life that schools and society now tells everyone she is supposed to have. As her father, you should work hard to guide her into marriage and family when she is ready, in her early teenage years when her body demands sex and babies, when she is young and strong and can bear the stress of pregnancy without failure, when she won't be a single mother leaving your granddaughter at the hospital or fire station.
Don't be a failure father like so many other fathers of failure feminist 30 something bitches. If you follow tradition, and Bob's advice, by the time your married grown up Princess is 30 something she will be preparing her daughter for marriage, and enrolling in a college to continue her education. She will have it all, because she did it in the order that Mother Nature provides for her.
Tell the anti-family hate monger bitches to pound sand. They aren't going to take away your family and your grandchildren. Your grandson won't be left at some hospital or fire station. Talk to your Little Princess about life and how to be a success. Talk to her mother. Help Little Princess be a success, to be a wife and mother, to live a full, rich, wonderful life.
Dads, its up to you. Are you going to help your daughters to have a wonderful life, or hurt them by barring marriage to a good man and pushing them into abortions, relationships, and a failed (man's) career? Dads, its up to you to save your daughters.
Labels: age of marriage, family, Fatherhood, fathers
posted by Bob | Thursday, May 20, 2010
66 Comments:
Oh, man, do I agree with this one, Bob.
As I have said, here in Mexico when a girl gets that craving "between her legs", only the parents can have a man arrested for taking care of it if the girl wanted it, which she usually does. The cops can't do a thing, the law is written weird, not sure if the minimum is 14 or 12, after which the decision is solely up to her and her parents. In many cases, they realize many girls get that craving as soon as they achieve puberty, and do not view the man she chooses to service her as the enemy, but especially so if he wants her hand in 'marriage.'
They do blame young women here for immorality, whereas in the US she is viewed, as Bob said, as a princess incapable of anything approximating lust and passion, all as normal for women as for men.
It makes much more sense to have her married or 'married' to a man who will support her, and expect her to do wife's work and care for her kid at no cost to the tax-payers, instead of getting a check for not working, and mostly leaving the kid with her mom while she bangs some more.
The problem at this time is the Anglosphere is suffering from a mixture of insanity, and man-hatred. So, it's illegal. Don't even think it as long as those laws are in place. Insane.
I wrote when I first came here the neighbor woman was around 20 or 21, and had five daughters, all as pretty as she was. She was accepted as a woman the day she moved in with the first 'husband' which I think I was told was when she was 14.
Anonymous age 68
I will add here the father can make a big difference in a daughter's life.
One thing that comes to mind is when a girl has no father in the house, they reach puberty sooner, speaking statistically.
Another thing is the minute a little girl hears her parents call her a princess, it's all over.
My daughter had to set the table and she had to wash dishes. I called myself the meanest dad in four states. She is a very unusual woman. She has been married 13 years, and she has never once quarreled angrily with her husband.
She is also the obedient wife some men want, but have no way to obtain except in fantasies.
Anonymous age 68
In Muslim nations, little girls are never a princess. Instead, they are routinely beaten (like their mothers); demeaned; denied much education or health care. Also, their genitals are cut into (genital mutilation) around 10 or 11. That is so they will have less sex pleasure, and often painful urination, infection, etc.
I like this sermon and am going to send it to my Letter to the Editor section.
anon's son in law will soon tire off his wife
Note to anonymous (May 22, 2010 8:26 AM)
In Christian/Jewish/Feminist nations, little boys are routinely beaten by their mothers. Also, their genitals are cut into (genital mutilation) within the first weeks of life. That is so they will always have less sex pleasure, and suffer extreme pain and emotional trauma, etc.
When you femiNazi scum end your extreme sexual violence against helpless little children (boys) here at home, then and only then will you have standing to complain about some mythical violence against girls somewhere else.
Bob said...
Note to anonymous (May 22, 2010 8:26 AM)
In Christian/Jewish/Feminist nations, little boys are routinely beaten by their mothers. Also, their genitals are cut into (genital mutilation) within the first weeks of life. That is so they will always have less sex pleasure, and suffer extreme pain and emotional trauma, etc.
When you femiNazi scum end your extreme sexual violence against helpless little children (boys) here at home, then and only then will you have standing to complain about some mythical violence against girls somewhere else.
I AGREE TOUGH SHIT FOR THEM WE HAD TO GET OVER IT ANY FATHER THAT CALLS HIS DAUGHTER A "LITTLE PRINCESS" SHOULD BE SHOT! I MEEN IT THEN THEY SPOIL THEM ROTTEN AND BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF THEIR SONS FOR IT AND THE MOTHER USUALLY CLAPS AT THE FATHER AND THEN BEATS THE SON SOME MORE!!! BITCHES! FUCKING SLUTS THEY ARE AND THE MANGINA FATHERS SHOULD BE ASHAMED THEY DON'T TREAT THEIR CHILDREN EQAULLY THIS SUCKS ALL YOU MANGINAS WILL GO TO HELL FOR THAT!! WHINEY LITTLE FUCKBAG MANGINAS!!! YOU ARE NOTHING GO AND FUCK YOUR SLUTS CUNTS IN HELL!!!
>>Anonymous said...
>>anon's son in law will soon tire off his wife
>>May 22, 2010 3:10 PM
If you are talking about my son-in-law, you are a liar. They have been married 13 years and he says they have never had one true quarrel. Stop making stuff up like a feminist.
This is part of the reason men have not been able to mount any resistance to feminist insanity, and why after some years of wasting time trying to talk to The Great American Wimp, I realized the only solution for those few smart enough to do it, was to expat.
If the men's movement were a football team, the quarterback would be sacked by his own team every time he got his hands on the ball.
Anonymous age 68
Anon 68, Bob et al.
LIGHTEN UP
>>>The traditional young woman learns basic education, and learns home economics, cooking, sewing, cleaning, banking, borrowing, budgeting, saving, hospitality, and child care.>>>
What if she'd rather learn architecture and have a corner office? What if she doesn't give a rat's ass about cooking and actively dislikes children and would far rather go into medicine? What if she doesn't want any part of a traditional woman's role and wants a "rich full life" as a professional? That's what they choose when they can choose.
Everywhere in the world where women have a choice they don't chose us. Everywhere there is birth control the population plummets. Everywhere where women can get abortions they want them. They don't want to be our wives and mothers of our children. They want to live like men. Look at everywhere in the world women have a choice. When they can choose, they don't choose us.
Mexican women are no different. If they had access to birth control and education they'd choose not to be traditional wives either. But Mexico is a poor country and most men can't get an education either, and the Catholic Church doesn't want birth control available. They don't want anyone to have it because women will use it if they have it.
Can somebody name me just one country where, when women gain access to birth control and education, they turn it down and want to keep the lives they had before? They don't want us. I don't think they ever did but they were stuck with it until now. When they can choose a life, they choose a man's life over a woman's traditional life. They don't want to have dinner parties to help their husband's careers. They want their own careers. They don't want to be good and obedient wives. They don't want us.
Note to anonymous:
Yes, feminism destroys the lives of every young woman it touches.
""
Everywhere in the world where women have a choice they don't chose us. Everywhere there is birth control the population plummets. Everywhere where women can get abortions they want them. They don't want to be our wives and mothers of our children. They want to live like men. Look at everywhere in the world women have a choice. When they can choose, they don't choose us.
Mexican women are no different. ""
Correct. You make good points and show that we cannot rely on women's choice to bring us what we (men) wish to have. We can't support something because "it's good for women" and we can't have pluralistic democracy.
"They don't want to be good and obedient wives. They don't want us."
Correct. You make excellent points. We must force what we, men, want, not support what women do or do not want.
They don't want us. We must not accept that as a valid choice however.
>>Anon 68, Bob et al.
>>LIGHTEN UP
>> May 24, 2010 8:35 AM
First, do you understand this is Bob's blog?
Second, it should be obvious this is not a light blog.
Third, have you read many comment threads here? There are commenters who make Bob and I look like milquetoasts.
Anonymous age 68
>>What if she'd rather learn architecture and have a corner office? What if she doesn't give a rat's ass about cooking and actively dislikes children and would far rather go into medicine? What if she doesn't want any part of a traditional woman's role and wants a "rich full life" as a professional? That's what they choose when they can choose.
Margaret Meade said her most important life achievement involved her children and grandchildren, and she got all those important career awards and things. She said it in a strange way, but she meant the most important thing to her was caring for kids and grandkids
In the US, a few years ago, 2/3 of all women said if they could stay home with their kids, they would prefer to do so. I assume this is what I call damage control, where feminists huff and puff and decree all women really want exciting careers, and do not want men, and as always assume if they repeat the lie it will be believed. This is Bob's blog and he calls liars down when he notices.
And, you men who fall for the feminist lies, shame on you. I have told you guys and told you guys militant feminism absolutely depends upon government welfare, no exceptions.
Another false hood here. Around half of women who graduate from med school are out of full-time practice within five years because they want children and stay home with them. That is what they choose when they can choose.
>>Mexican women are no different. If they had access to birth control and education they'd choose not to be traditional wives either.
I have to tell you the same thing I told Mikee. Stop lying.
Or, if you are not lying, just stupid, better not do it when someone from Mexico is here.
Birth control is available all over Mexico. My best friend is a doctor; his wife is a pharmacist. They shovel that out the door in large quantities. Most of it goes to unmarried women, or to women who have their three kids.
Also, they sell large quantities of condoms. I was in Wal-mart in Puebla around 2 pm this afternoon, and the condom shelves were well filled.
First trimester abortions are available in Mexico City. There is no partial birth third trimester abortion. The pregnant woman has three months, then she is out of luck.
In fact, the population of Mexico is not plummeting. It is soaring. What is true is family size is dropping because WHILE MEXICAN WOMEN DO WANT TO BE TRADITIONAL WIVES, THEY DO NOT WANT LARGE FAMILIES TO BE RAISED IN POVERTY. So they are using easily available birth control to have families commonly around 3 kids, though there will always be a few large families. But, most women expect to stay at home when they become mothers.
>>Can somebody name me just one country where, when women gain access to birth control and education, they turn it down and want to keep the lives they had before?
There you go again. Mexican women do want changed lives, in that they still want to be SAHM, they just want to be SAHM with 3 kids instead of 10, while that means not wanting the life they had before they still want kids and to stay at home with their kids. More b.s., more twisting things around.
The reason I have been so successful over the last few years convincing men to expat, is they claim it's the same all over. I challenge them to visit a male-friendly country just once, and when they do, they go home and start making expat plans. They learn on short visits, it is NOT the same everywhere. It's like shooting ducks off a log.
Anonymous age 68
"Everywhere in the world where women have a choice they don't chose us."
Oh, quit whining. How many times have you posted this same thing? Do you have a macro for it or what?
Let me spell it out for you:
SO WHAT?
It's none of your damned business what women do and don't choose. Got it?
NONE
OF
YOUR
BUSINESS
You sound like a whiny loser. I don't think women go for that.
The human race is in no danger of dying out. If some women don't want kids so what? There's plenty who do, and have them.
Can't get a girlfriend? Try not being such a loser.
Stand up and look around. What women do and don't choose isn't up to you or anybody else other than themselves. None of your business. Can you name me just one reason why you should have a say in someone else's life. Didn't think so. They don't choose you? Color me shocked.
Get over it. It's none of your business.
>>Stand up and look around. What women do and don't choose isn't up to you or anybody else other than themselves. None of your business. Can you name me just one reason why you should have a say in someone else's life. Didn't think so. They don't choose you? Color me shocked.
Um, let me see what the rules are.
Oh, yes, women lobby every day to pass laws to tell men what to do in every aspect of their lives. Since we have ekwalitee, we men get to tell dearies what to do. There, wasn't that simple? One reason that you asked for. They tell us what to do, and that allows us to tell them what to do.
>>You sound like a whiny loser. I don't think women go for that.
This is called shaming language and it doesn't work any more. I do not agree with his statement that women everywhere do not choose us, it's wrong, but so is it wrong to say it's none of our business. They made it our business by telling us what to do from birth to death.
Oh, before I forget, go pound sand.
Anonymous age 68
"What women do and don't choose isn't up to you or anybody else other than themselves. None of your business. Can you name me just one reason why you should have a say in someone else's life."
Women and girls shouldn't have the choice. It is men's buisness. Anyone who disagrees should be killed as they support women's rights.
Anyone who disagrees should be killed as they support women's rights.
MikeeUSA, it would be helpful if you'd sign your posts, or better, put your name at the top. It's obvious that you don't have anything worthwhile to say and it would be much easier to just skip your stuff if you'd sign it.
TIA
For once, I mean no insult or criticism to Mikee. Not that he doesn't deserve insults and criticisms, but I have something else to say. And, it is a totally serious thing with no negative intention.
I was driving to Puebla Monday to renew my papers. I was driving and thoughts about unresolved issues kept entering my mind, which is normal when I drive a distance.
I have been confused about Mikee. I have assumed he was just another normal guy who can't get a woman until the whores turn 30 and renew their virginity to get the nice guys they rejected in their younger years while they banged bad boys.
It is my belief that all human characteristics are on a Bell Curve. So, I have just assumed that Mikee was on the extreme edge of negative attitude toward American whores.
Still, it has never completely made sense that he is so extreme, even when he occasionally admits he knows he can never have what he wants.
It came over me as I drove, perhaps we have been missing something. Maybe Mikee is not just an ordinary man who is unusually angry about how American whores treat men. Maybe there is a completely different issue in his life, which he does not tell anyone. And, that issue is such that he knows there is no place on the world today where he can ever get any woman.
I came up with three possibilities.
1. Severely disabled, thus cannot actually work at anything, and thus he knows he will never have any woman ever.
2. Some syndrome, such as the Elephant Man, who is incurably grotesque.
3. Morbid obesity.
All three of these correlate with living with his Mommy, and piddling around writing video games which apparently do not sell. And, it also correlates with the rather obvious fact he has never had sex with a woman, nor much else contact with a woman.
Because of his fantasy about virgin wife rape, #2 or #3 make more sense, because he might get lucky and get his hand on a 12 year old to rape if the cruel world would just change to let him do it.
Also, this correlates with his desire to see all women and most men who don't share his view of women, die.
That sort of viewpoint could be a masked Freudian desire to commit suicide, which means we all go away forever, from his viewpoint.
I tell ya', Mikee, if one of these three things is correct, I feel for ya'. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy. Well, maybe my worst enemy, but I have vague hopes my worst enemy die of pancreatic cancer, heh, heh.
I can't help if you are disabled, nor if you have elephant trunks growing out of your face.
I might be able to help you if you weigh 500 pounds and can't leave your mommy because you are too fat to walk.
I have been on Atkins for maybe 4 or 5 years, and have learned a lot. I could get you started. Just let me know.
On the other hand, if you are just plain nuts, go pound sand.
Anonymous age 68
Nothing much to add to 68's comments. I've wondered before if Mikee might be disabled in some way. It would matter very much in the way I see him if he were as well as explain a lot.
But either way, it would be a good thing if he'd label his posts at the beginning. Back in the days of usenet (anybody remember that?) we had killfiles that could render some posters virtually invisible without interfering with their right to post. On blogs that's tough to do. But if he'd put a flag on top of a post it would be easy to just move on to the next one.
""1. Severely disabled, thus cannot actually work at anything, and thus he knows he will never have any woman ever.""
Nope
""2. Some syndrome, such as the Elephant Man, who is incurably grotesque.""
Nope
""3. Morbid obesity.""
Nope, lol.
Death To women's Rights.
Viva Men's Liberties.
--MikeeUSA--
"On the other hand, if you are just plain nuts, go pound sand."
Not nuts either. :)
I'm glad that I do not have the expenses that you have and I am glad that I have not lived through the tribulations that you have.
You're a moron, however, your prose drips with chilvary towards women and traditional american female worship.
Give her a car? Oh what so she can whore around behind your back. Lol, that all you see your worth and the worth of your fellow man as: a post to support and prop up women's lifestyles.
Pound sand? Well I'm not a far walk from the beach, I think I'll just do that.
Death To women's Rights.
Viva Men's Liberties.
--MikeeUSA--
I know mikee is only 14 himself that's IT!!!!
The real problem in the West is men actually worshipping women over and above their Creator. Anyone will carry on like a spoiled brat if someone charges to their rescue and never gets held accountable. I appreciate how feminists believe women were "oppressed" before the 60's because they weren't "allowed" to be "professionals". Bunk. Women were NEVER prohibited from entering these fields in the West. If they bothered to talk to women who HAD to work to support a war effort, they'd find these women PREFERRED to become housewives. Also, professionals are the minority of total occupations. And I don't know any man I've talked to who did NOT say their work sucked and they were looking forward to retirement or never regretted taking an early one.
Sorry to hear that, Michael. Then, my original diagnosis is correct and you deserve no respect of any kind.
>>I'm glad that I do not have the expenses that you have and I am glad that I have not lived through the tribulations that you have.
You assume I lived through a lot of tribulations. It is you, not I, who has suffered so much you are filled with hate for everyone. And, since I do not hate all women, want to see them dead as you have said often, and/or raped, you assume I am chivalrous.
As far as expenses, a man who gets his money from his mommy like a little boy cannot be said to have any expenses.
Anonymous age 68
When I get time, I will present my next theory on you, Michael.
What's to theorize? Mikee's mentally ill. He lives at home because his illness won't let him function in the real world and for some reason his parents don't want him getting psychiatric help. Maybe they've tried in the past and it didn't work. I've been running across his stuff in various forums for years. He never changes the record. Raping virgins, raping virgins, ad infinitum, ad nauseum. He's unwell.
...(continued)...
Citation: Anon talking about his 68 year old wife:
""
::You have no idea just how good a woman's body is. You have no idea just how good it
::is to have sex with a willing woman who grabs at you with passion, wanting more and
::more. You are unable to comprehend that having good sex with a 68 year old wife twice ::a week is a major achievement that few can ever have.
""
""
::You mock me because I have good sex with my 68 year old wife twice a week,
""
Oh damn, TWICE a WEEK. He lucky yo! He score!
Citation: Anon has negative feelings towards fertile young women, he doesn't think they should be screwed and married:
""
:: So, you imagine that a vicious assault on a 12 year old virgin in the form of ::violent rape would be really good sex, and think we are nuts when we try to tell you ::the truth.
::
:: You even imagine, that Gor-like, as soon as you rape her she will be sooo happy ::and grateful, that she will become your obedient, submissive wife.
""
I guess that is because he doesn't want anyone getting to them before he bags them at... what ? when they're 40?
This is your new friend?
--MikeeUSA--
""
::You assume I lived through a lot of tribulations. It is you, not I, who has suffered ::so much you are filled with hate for everyone. And, since I do not hate all women,
::want to see them dead as you have said often, and/or raped, you assume I am
::chivalrous.
""
You informed us, previously, of your childsupport troubles in the great state of California. You informed us that one of the reasons you fled to Mexico was to avoid the payment of those expenses.
""
::As far as expenses, a man who gets his money from his mommy like a little boy cannot
::be said to have any expenses.
""
I am happy to be living in a place other than Mexico. I am happy that I am not as mentally unbalanced as you to think that screwing a nearly 70 year old woman is fulfiling or "hot". You are fucked in the head.
""
::Anonymous age 68
""
Why is your wife the same age as you. Why can't you spell anymore?
""
::When I get time, I will present my next theory on you, Michael.
""
Enjoy your career.
I also note that your idea of a man's role is to support a woman:
Buy her a house.
Buy her a car.
Let her use that car (and whore around behind your back, or atleast be independent)
Pay her expenses.
GIVE HER AN ALLOWANCE (what the fuck? why would you let her spend your money? Fuck You.)
Die for her.
You're a normal good american man and you are fucking up the deal that the non-american men get by exporting your chilvalristic/pro-woman/woman-respecting/give-freely-to-your-prostitute(because, by what you're telling us, you're _paying_ and paying a good deal) values.
Fuck You.
I also notice that you seem to see me and what I say as your enemy and are fixated upon this now... guess that 68 year old woman isn't doing it for you anyway.
And then your claims of bagging a "20 something year old type A single mother".. hmm let's see, you seem to claim to have moved to Mexico some time in the 1990s. Your wife is 68 (or so you tell us now). Math:
Assumption: You moved and met her in 1990:
2010 - 1990 = 20
68 - 20 = 48
.: Your wife was was almost 50 when you met her, not a "hot" 20 something "type A" whatever. So according to that you "got lucky" with a 50 year old with a kid.
Assumption: You her in 1985:
2010 - 1985 = 20
68 - 25 = 43
Yeah baby! A fresh-out-the-box 40 year old on the wedding day! Guess she's good for contraception.
What year would it have had to have been for you to have met your Mexicana friend when she was
Bob: Not is this Anon68 man believe in women's rights and traditional chilvary, he lies to you blatantly and doesn't even bother to keep his math straight. Is this really who you want as your new ally? And someone who finds 40, 50, 60, 70 year old women attractive, and pooh-poohs and minimizes the fact that girls start going at it right away once they are able to have children at 12, 13, 14... and suggests that only scumbags would or should go for those fresh young women (good men should wait untill they're 20 something "Type A" single mothers, or atleast are 16 or 18 or 20 or so)? That's who you're allied with now? Why?
Also notice that all Anon68's arguments against feminism are predicated on the theory that feminism is bad for women. He doesn't care about what is most advantageous to men, he cares about women.
Death To women's Rights.
Viva Men's Liberty.
--MikeeUSA--
(Not Michael, Anon68 - You chilvarious, pro-women's rights fuck)
)I always liked cinnamon Life(TM) cereal)
...
If MikeeUSA's parents are picking up his bills, be glad. Otherwise it would be the taxpayers. I run a small business. I currently have one job opening and since the universities have just graduated a new lot of job seekers I have over 500 applicants. I find Google, Facebook and YouTube very useful in weeding them out. The young lady who decided to decorate her "wall" with pictures of how she got her Mardi Gras beads? Miss, you have a great set of tits and remarkably poor judgment. Don't call us and we won't call you. The guy and his fraternity buddies who decided to dress in blackface, dance around and try to rap and post it all to YouTube? That sound you just heard was countless doors slamming in your face. These are litigious times. Harassment lawsuits are certain death to small businesses.
Mikee's real name has been posted elsewhere. If his resume turned up on my desk and I Googled him, there's no way I would consider hiring him. Lawsuits would be the least of my worries with someone like that. "Ticking bomb" would be my assessment of his online record.
Be glad someone is looking after him.
Anon: when the men who can never get good jobs because they dressed up in blackface and had a good time find out that you and all your friends have denied them gainfull employment, and they find out that they cannot aquire gainfull employment, and discover that there is little enjoyment in their life because (though they have go through their studies) they have been denied employment, they will torch your buisness and kill you. I will be happy when you relearn the lessons of the french revolution. Perhaps your female offspring will be less enthused, however.
""The guy and his fraternity buddies who decided to dress in blackface, dance around and try to rap and post it all to YouTube? That sound you just heard was countless doors slamming in your face. These are litigious times. Harassment lawsuits are certain death to small businesses.
Mikee's real name has been posted elsewhere. If his resume turned up on my desk and I Googled him, there's no way I would consider hiring him.""
Bob,
Well, said! When I was in my 20s I married my college sweetheart, and we become a modern young marriage where both had tiring and demanding careers. Well, it worked for a while but then we divorced some days after our sixth anniversary. Fortunately we didn't have children. Since I have always been a business consultant who travels a lot I didn't have much time for a relationship, so I was playing the field for many years. When I turned 37 I decided that I wanted to have a family. So, I married a gorgeous and energetic 18 year old girl I met at a local Hooters in Mexico City. Six years later we have 3 kids and she's running a very cozy home for us with such an energy and enthusiasm that a woman in their 30s or 40s wouldn't be able to do so. I have told her that once our children are 12, I want her to help me in running my businesses, so she can develop professionally as well.
Note to Mario:
Thank you for sharing your story of a good life based on natural bonding.
Be sure to give her father a gift sometime, just because.
>>What's to theorize? Mikee's mentally ill.
Of course, but Bob asked us to back off on this sort of personal attack.
The problem is, as you can see, Mikee does not back off on personal attacks against us.
Anonymous age 68
>>You informed us, previously, of your childsupport troubles in the great state of California. You informed us that one of the reasons you fled to Mexico was to avoid the payment of those expenses.
Not only mentally ill, but stupid and can't read, Michael. I have no child support problems in California. I was in California exactly once years ago for an hour to change planes on my way home from Mexico. I owe no child support anywhere. Nor did I ever say any such thing. Perhaps your local community college has remedial reading classes?
>>I am happy that I am not as mentally unbalanced as you to think that screwing a nearly 70 year old woman is fulfiling or "hot".
Clever words from a 'man' who has never had sex with any woman of any age, ever.
Also this attitude towards older women tells us that after your fantasy rape of a 12 year old virgin wife, you plan on dumping her when she gets old. When? When she is 15?
>>I also note that your idea of a man's role is to support a woman:
Buy her a house.
Buy her a car.
Let her use that car (and whore around behind your back, or atleast be independent)
Pay her expenses.
GIVE HER AN ALLOWANCE (what the fuck? why would you let her spend your money?
None of these things are true in my marriage. Stop lying.
>>You're a normal good american man and you are fucking up the deal that the non-american men get by exporting your chilvalristic/pro-woman/woman-respecting/give-freely-to-your-prostitute(because, by what you're telling us, you're _paying_ and paying a good deal) values.
Another lie.
>>And then your claims of bagging a "20 something year old type A single mother"..
Another lie. I said no such thing. Ran out of meds?
>>Also notice that all Anon68's arguments against feminism are predicated on the theory that feminism is bad for women.
Lie after lie after lie. Strong words from a 'man' who has done exactly nothing for any other man except call them names, directed to a man who supplied no-fee counseling services to divorced and unwed fathers for ten years.
>>Oh damn, TWICE a WEEK. He lucky yo! He score!
Big words from a 'man' who has never had sex with any woman, ever, in his life.
>>Anon has negative feelings towards fertile young women, he doesn't think they should be screwed and married:
False. False. False. However, it is illegal right now, and I do think they should be willing. To a super pile of worthless **** like you, a woman's views on what you want to do are not relevant.
A word of caution for you, Michael. You talk tough, real tough.
In my lifetime, I have known other people who like you engage in outrageous behavior towards other people.
In every case, it is because you assume you are more outrageous than other people are. So, you assume nothing bad will happen to you, that you will dish it out and dish it out and dish it out, and others will take it and take it and take it.
And, it is true for most people. It is true for me, and probably every man on this blog. You are not worth doing any violent or illegal act.
But, I have seen this before. Outrageous men, sooner or later, ALWAYS encounter someone who is even more outrageous. You can bet on it. And, it is always a total surprise to outrageous men when they finally get what they have long deserved.
I have said many times in my life I do not advocate any illegal or violent act. But, I always add that, however, I do have freedom of speech which allows me to cheer loudly at appropriate moments. If you encounter someone more outrageous than you, that will be grounds for using my freedom of speech.
Anonymous age 68
>>So, I married a gorgeous and energetic 18 year old girl I met at a local Hooters in Mexico City. Six years later we have 3 kids and she's running a very cozy home for us with such an energy and enthusiasm that a woman in their 30s or 40s wouldn't be able to do so.
Great success story. Thanks for sharing!
Why is the MikeeUSA show always a rerun?
...they will torch your buisness and kill you...
That's the response of a frustrated two-year-old. Men take responsibility for their mistakes. I don't have to put up with immature idiots in this business climate. It's a buyer's market for hiring. Morons who think mocking blacks is "having a good time" have no place in my offices. And if they're men instead of toddlers, they'll accept that they screwed up and figure out how to grow up. It's that simple.
My dear friend Michael does not like being called Michael. Mikee is a name for a two year old baby, and is part of a compound word, Mommy's Little Mikee. If Michael wants to act like a two year old he has that right, but I choose not to help him do it.
Michael knows very little about sex for the reason I have stated several times, so this is sex ed time.
First, sex drive has several physical causes, beyond learned mental things.
Men have little tank thingies, called seminal vesicles. The body deposits the semen in them for expulsion when needed. When the vesicles are fuller, the hormone level thus sex drive is also higher. When the vesicles are completely full, the hormone level thus sex drive are off the top of the charts.
After expulsion the sex drive is down until the vesicles fill at least somewhat.
Now, here is the part Michael does not understand, or pretends not to understand, because he lies a lot to provoke people, imagining that making people angry makes him a real man, who might some day actually have a woman.
As a man gets older, his hormone level drops considerably. The rate of semen production also drops considerably.
So, while a young man may be primed up again in a few hours, even minutes in some cases, as men get older, it takes longer and longer.
Thirty-five years ago, I was able to cut the mustard five times on my wedding night, the only time in my life I was ever able to do such a thing.
There are few married men in my age range who can do it more than once a week, without Viagra. Two is great.
Further, there are few older women married to men that old who are interested.
So, while I have been mocked, the intelligent, sane men here who are past the diaper stage, realize that twice a week for a 68 year old man is actually a really good deal. This is basic biology of aging 101.
And, of course, this is 104 more times a year than my dear friend Michael gets it.
Let add some statistics. In the US, a full 22% of marriages are sexless. There are different theories why this might be, but I say just look at the wives and you will see one BIG reason at a glance, pun definitely intended.
Some more it is once a month; twice; three times a month; once a week; etc.
I don't know all the stats but I guarantee you, in the US the average married person of any age it's probably sex twice a week.
So, mocking my twice a week at age 68 is purely ignorance based opinion.
Anonymous age 68
Next, a further comment on Mario's posting. He was 37 when he married an excellent woman he met in Mexico City. Until he tells me differently, I am going to assume she is Mexican.
37/18 for a successful North American man in Mexico with some social skills is not at all a surprise to me. And, my guess is her friends and family did NOT scream with rage when they found out how old he was, as they would have done in the Anglosphere.
This is what I have been telling men on many blogs and message boards. Go to Youtube and search for: 40 y 20 Jose Jose
However, 68/18 is pushing it. Really hard. I actually know a man in Puebla who might pull it off, but for ordinary men like most of us, that is too much. At least for the class of woman Mario married.
UNLESS you trade something off. Something like appearance; or sexual experience; desperation; or parentage.
While there is little or no racism here, there is colorism. Without regard to actual ethnic ancestry, darker skinned women are considered less appealing. I know a couple absolutely beautiful women who are almost black, not African ancestry, and they do not expect to marry well. If you don't care, there is something which you can accept and get youth and beauty in exchange, but you have to watch your back for an angry man with equally dark skin, heh, heh.
Here in the county, unwed mothers are treated badly. The men here in the country consider it great sport to promise marriage, then when the girl is pregnant, tell her to go pound sand.
I was visiting my friend's clinic when he was starting the heart of a pregnant girl who had swallowed a glass of malathion; she died two weeks later in a city hospital.
In Mexico, there are two types of unwed mothers. I call the type who realizes she made a serious blunder and works hard to make up for it, while caring for her kid, Type I. There are not many. Type I never has more than one child, unless she had twins. Though you must do what we call, "Test! Test! Test!" Type I can make very good wives.
If you are 37 or 42, don't take a Type I, unless it just works out that way. If you are my age, it is a reasonable trade-off if you like her kid and she passes the tests. In that case, at least out here in the county, 68/2? is do-able.
I don't know many Type I, but the only pretty girl I ever met in Cordoba is one, and now that her child is 3 or 4, has passed all the tests IMO. My BIL, who is 'married' to her mom says she NEVER dates, because she is afraid of making the same mistake. And, she and her mother sell food in the driveway, and she works very early till late at night. Type I.
I haven't met a Type I in the US since the late 60's, though they may exist.
A young widow might be a choice for 68/2? if she passes all the tests.
Anonymous age 68
Anon 68: I am not lying.
Car, Allowance, Support for a woman this is what you see the value of a man as:
""
:: So, banging some snot nosed kid of age 16 who will leave her pregnant and in poverty
::is good. But, marrying a man of 30+ with a [b]nice house, queen sized bed, who will give
::her a good allowance in addition to all expenses paid, and a second car she can
::drive is bad?[/b] No sane 15 year old girl would make that stupid decision unless the
::lesbians have brainwashed them and also terrified the older men with promises of 10
::years in prison.
::Anonymous age 68
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https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=11580877&postID=449675263462405696
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20 something year old type A Single Mother:
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::As far as Type I Unwed Mother, try Googling. You haven't heard of it because there
::are almost none of them in the Anglosphere.
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""
::You sneer at my saying if my wife dies, I will get an unwed 20 year old mother of Type I. But, you as best as we can tell have nothing at all in your life. You are apparently decades younger than I am and apparently can't even get a date with a fat whore, but you mock a 68 year old man who can get a good 20 year old with a good kid.
::Deeds, not words.
::Anonymous age 68
""
Etc, you were going on and on and on about "hot type I single mother" for ... about a month or more now. That's your fixation: picking up another man's scraps.
I'm sure Bob remebers if he read all your posts. Bob can you weigh in?
""Something about him scoring with a corpse""
I'd rather fuck nothing than a corpse.
Especially twice a week.
I'd most prefer to have a nice young woman who recently came into childbearing age.
I really do not want a senior citizen of Mehico! I'm not attracted at all to Aztec indians.
""
::Lie after lie after lie. Strong words from a 'man' who has done exactly nothing for
::any other man except call them names, directed to a man who supplied no-fee
::counseling services to divorced and unwed fathers for ten years."
"
Talking to someone is not service. You deserved no compensation for your efforts. Furthermore, none of the divorcing women learned a lesson: they all yet live (you, ofcourse, do not want them dead, you are a good american man).
Call me a liar, I don't care, you're just a scumbag who has been going off since I called you a Smug Mother Fucker (and that's what you are, you're fucking some kids mother). Why can't you get a virgin girl? Why won't you. Oh yea, you're a good upstanding man who likes to be Mr Save A Ho. Fucking Retard.
I'm going to go do some mapping now, I made a few more textures in the morning.
--MikeeUSA--
You warned me about something, Anon68?
Go fuck yourself. You come to my place to make good on your warning and I'll blow your hands off and let you live with that.
There you go again, lying and lying and lying. I made it clear I had no intention of any illegal acts or violence. You are so filled with hate and anger you can't even think any more.
But, let me tell you a tale from the 90's.
A story was printed in a very popular MRA newsletter about a man in Little Rock. A cousin of Bill Clinton claimed to have been raped. She named the rapist, but alas, he had an airtight alibi.
So, she suddenly realized it was another man, who also had an airtight alibi.
The next man she thought maybe perhaps possibly raped her had no alibi. So, they arrested him, and he was bailed out on a large bond.
Two men broke into his house and castrated him, leaving him tied to a chair, bleeding to death. One of his kids came home early thus his life was saved.
His testicles ended up on the sheriff's desk in a jar.(Though not necessarily important to this tale, the sheriff ended up doing a long stay in prison himself for other crimes.)
When the newsletter was being prepared a couple of buddies of the publisher came in and looked through the sheets.
One was an ex-marine so tough he usually dry shaves. The other was former IRA. At least one of the two works heavy equipment in the North in the summer, and lives in the jungles of Vera Cruz in the winter, with PTSD Viet Nam vets so tough it was printed in the Mexican newspapers, the local police sent in negotiators with a white flag, and told them they were not going to bother them any more as long as they only killed each other or their own families, but if they bothered other people they would have to come in.
They read that article, looked at each other, said, "Let's go."
They drove probably 15+ hours to Little Rock, found where those two guys hung out, and joined them in the bar. All friendly.
After while they invited them to go to another bar. As soon as they hit the parking lot, they beat those two cowards to an absolute pulp, climbed in their car and drove home.
I do not know exactly what 'pulp' means, but my experiences in the military lead me to think, with this type of combat vet, broken nose; teeth knocked out; permanent jaw damage; perhaps fractured skull; broken ribs; broken bones in the arms; maybe more. Men like this can beat ordinary men to death, but this was obviously not their plan in this case.
You see, Michael, in the past, you spent a lot of time on dearie blogs and message boards, and places where wimps hang out, so you were safe. Now, you are hanging around men, real men who have sex with women and who need not rape their sex partners, and who actually hold jobs and who sometimes have military backgrounds with real bullets and combat knives in them, not just a computer Bang-Bang sound effect in Mommy's basement.
Anonymous age 68, Continued
Continued:
As I wrote earlier, people like you engage in outrageous behavior, imagining your outrageous behavior somehow makes you stronger than other people who merely want to avoid unnecessary conflict and back off when you are acting insanely. (Let me point out there many women like this, too.) I have a brother like this; he got away lightly, with only a broken nose when he finally met someone more outrageous than he was.
I don't care if someone does come harm you, as such. However, unlike you, I have actually advocated for men, with no-fee counseling for over 10 years, and public activism, things like picketing the court house, not just hate; discontent; and anonymous insults directed at everyone. My goal was to try to make screwed up men better than they were, as well as help defend good men from evil women. As much as I'd enjoy hearing about you getting beat into a pulp, I also would be glad to hear you got psychiatric help and had a good life as many of us have. You have the potential. It would be good to hear you had been cured, and had a couple good little kids at your side. I know your potential better than you do.
Your implying I might be the one to come get you, shows just how stupid you really are. I am in Mexico. When I enter the US, my passport is entered into the Home Security computers. When I leave the country, the license plate recognition cameras record my exit. Thus creating a perfect evidence of my presence in the country. If I pay for gas and motels with credit card, there would be a perfect trail to your house and back to the border. Dumb!!!
Also, I think crossing state lines to commit a crime makes it a Federal felony.
Tough guys who might decide to discipline you will get cash and pay cash for gas and supplies, and will drive very sedately to avoid attention from the police. Abby Hoffman was on the FBI most wanted list for 18 years with this approach.
You not only know nothing about women, you know nothing about men. I learned first about men in the military; later when counseling them.
You do some extremely hateful things that most men find very objectionable.
I talk about my 68 year old wife of 35 years and mother of my children. You mock me and mock her in every imaginable way. My daughter I have described as a good wife who in 13 years of submissive and faithful marriage has never ragged out her husband once. More mocking and more insults. These are good women, in spite of your confusion on which is which, and real men respect good women.
But, the worst thing you do is demonstrate total cowardice in every way. Only a coward would talk about raping 12 or 14 year old virgins. Only a coward would mock and insult a man and his good wife and good daughter. Pure and total coward.
Every real man hates a coward.
That is why I predict you will eventually suffer for the evil you spread.
I am not threatening you, and every sane person on this blog well knows it. I am predicting, because I know men.
If you toned it down, as Bob has asked you a number of times, you could probably even talk about the Old Testament concept of marrying any woman you rape. Present it in a rational way, and explain it. This anger and hate and cowardice and insults and mocking anyone who disagrees with you is guaranteed to bring you to grief.
Anonymous age 68
"But, I have seen this before. Outrageous men, sooner or later, ALWAYS encounter someone who is even more outrageous. You can bet on it. And, it is always a total surprise to outrageous men when they finally get what they have long deserved."
I know others who believe and support things somewhat worse than what I support, It's good to have allies.
You see it as a negative somehow. I've only found it to be a positive so far.
""
I have said many times in my life I do not advocate any illegal or violent act. But, I always add that, however, I do have freedom of speech which allows me to cheer loudly at appropriate moments. If you encounter someone more outrageous than you, that will be grounds for using my freedom of speech.
Anonymous age 68
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You are one smug mother fucker. I don't know what you have to be smug about however.
Let me repeat what I have said. I do not advocate violence, or even any illegal act, to the very best of our capacity. And, I urge every reader here to take the same approach.
I include not exceeding the speed limit. Any law, no matter how trivial, includes some sort of negative consequence greater than the benefits obtained from violating it. Use your energy for more important things.
This thread started out about the role of fathers. Should you actually have contact with your children, set the example of not wasting time and energy in violating even trivial laws. One hundred dollars paid in traffic fines is a down payment on a new computer.
Something I have NOT said, is if I realize someone is going to wherever Michael is, which I have predicted will happen some day, I call the cops. I made that policy in my activist days.
There were men who were too cowardly to carry a picket sign, but talked about violence. I told them, "Don't tell me, I call the cops if you tell me."
This has to do with avoiding being an accomplice, or charged with conspiracy on violent acts. If someone wants to die in a shoot-out with the cops, that is his right, but don't drag me into it. This is purely an act of self-defense.
At one stage, I studied the use of violence to attempt to solve men's problems, just as one studies chemistry. I learned most violence is based on a childish lack of patience. If a movement is correct, it will triumph, but only when society is ready for it. You cannot hurry change.
All this Muslim terrorist crap, if they stopped the violence; became legal residents of the US, and their women had the normal 8 kids each, in a few decades they will take over without a shot being fired. Millions are going to die, all because of childish impatience.
I realize judges from Hell take away the kids of many men. However, if you have access to your kids, make it your highest priority, subordinate only to the obviously necessary earning of a living.
If you are a husband, and your wife is tolerable, stick to her. There are many costs of many types to changing wives.
I am mocked because I have sex with my 68 year old Mexican wife as often as the average man has sex with his wife at any age.
Having an extended family, having connections with your children and grandchildren is more important than the difference between sex with a 68 year old wife, and sex with a 2? year old woman.
Sure, sex with a young chick is a lot better than with an old wife. But, you young guys do not yet know what it is like to be old and alone in the world. To be young and alone is not bad. Hit the street; get a ticket to Bangkok for a special vacation. When you get old, it won't work so well.
Well, for some, to be young and alone is pure Hell. Look at the hatred that fills the life of one regular here.
I don't mean one cannot participate in political activism. Bob does well with this blog, presenting a political viewpoint, which is important but almost unique.
Busy people can do more than one thing at a time. And, looking back, your children and grandchildren, if you have contact with them, will be the best memories of your life.
Anonymous age 68
Note to readers:
Please review Bob's rules for comments posted on the left column of The World According to Bob There have been several comments lately which amount to criticizing or insulting other readers. This is not a place to hold a flame war with each other. You are all welcome to say your opinions, but not to criticize other men.
Mikee: Bob has asked you several times not to advocate rape of young women. Get a clue.
Note to readers:
Bob does not advocate any criminal or illegal acts. Bob is an observer and student of the human condition in a land where the criminal government attacks and destroys men who say the "wrong" words. The founding fathers of the United States attempted to preserve the rights of MEN to speak about tyranny, but tyranny has negated their constitution.
Bob has observed that men who take action get results. Throughout history, no significant social change has ever been accomplished without the effective use of violent action. The founding fathers of the United States understood this principle well. The Islamic jihadists have been able to influence governments throughout Europe and elsewhere by threat of violence because they are willing to take action when needed, and even individually willing to die for their beliefs.
Speaking of taking effective action, Bob found a web site with a source for courageous men who might disregarded Bob's advice and begin taking effective action.
http://tinyurl.com/sniper700
Bob strongly recommends against using such weapons to eliminate agents of Satan in black robes of hell, blue shirts, black ties, or other evil scum.
And, of course, Bob strongly recommends against talking or writing about any effective action you may have taken or be thinking about taking. Bob is an observer of the human condition, not an advocate for violent or illegal acts.
Bob, ¿Could you post this?
Anonymous,
you should edit a blog, you have plenty of ink.
As for your comment about my story, I am Mexican and my wife is Mexican too. I guess a woman doesn't care too much about her partner's age or looks, but if he can show her he has a purpose in life and the willing to get it. Of course, if you have economic means it also helps. My wife was a waiter at Hooters, she is energetic, youthful and helpful. That was enough for me since I wanted a good mother for my children. I am a consultant who has traveled around the world and I can tell you that there are two places where being a man is dangerous and getting married is the worst stupidity a male can do since he puts himself in a legal and financial a risk, no matter the age gap of the spouses, such countries are the USA and the UK. Other countries (rich and poor) have feminist movements, but they haven't gone so far.
Woman to be questioned over boys death
Monday, May 31, 2010
The bodies of two boys aged seven and nine have been found in a bedroom in Mooroopna Victoria.
A homicide detective investigating the deaths of two young boys at a house in northern Victoria says it was a distressing scene.
The bodies of the boys, aged seven and nine, were found in a bedroom of the house in Kalimna Drive at Mooroopna, near Shepparton, about 6.30pm on Sunday.
Homicide's Detective Senior Sergeant Dave Snare, who arrived at the property in the early hours of Monday morning, spoke outside the property telling media it was a scene nobody wished to see.
'No-one wishes to go into a scene like that,' he said.
A 29-year-old woman, believed to be boys' mother, and a man, believed to be their father, are being questioned by police at Shepparton police station but as yet no charges have been laid.
It is not known at this stage how the two young boys died with post-mortem examinations to be held later on Monday.
The school the boys' attended has been notified and counselling will be offered.
Inspector Neil Thomas told News Ltd it was very disturbing for everyone involved.
'We will do our best to work with neighbours and friends who are grieving,' he said.
BET TO FUCK THE FATHER GETS CHARGED FOR IT EVEN THOUGH THE MOTHER WOULD HAVE DONE IT!!!
>>Anonymous, you should edit a blog, you have plenty of ink.
If you mean me, I have a message board, but it is limited to the positive, except when the truth about expatting requires the negative for accuracy. It is low membership, and low participation, because most MRA's seem to want to wallow in agony and despair, instead of Getting The Hell Out. I use it as a refuge for the few men who become depressed reading the usual "American women are so bad" postings on most message boards. After while, you already well know it. And, for those who want to know more about expatting to Mexico.
I also post a lot about daily life here, since the reason men don't expat is because they can't visualize the expat life. I have also been known to temporarily post pictures of local lovelies on the board accessible only to members, heh, heh.
>>I can tell you that there are two places where being a man is dangerous and getting married is the worst stupidity a male can do since he puts himself in a legal and financial a risk, no matter the age gap of the spouses, such countries are the USA and the UK.
In my small village in rural Puebla a lot of men go north. I tell them exactly that. "If you want pain, aim a very large caliber pistol at your stupid head, and pull. It will be less painful than marrying a North American woman, and you will spare innocent children equal suffering."
In my life, I have known many Americanos who were married many years to Mexican women, including my 35 years married to my wife. I have never personally known an Americana who stayed married to a Mexican man. Not one.
>>I guess a woman doesn't care too much about her partner's age or looks, but if he can show her he has a purpose in life and the willing to get it
I do agree, but 68/2? is pushing it, even for Mexico, don't you think, at least for ordinary men with ordinary personalities? (As a successful consultant, you have social skills and personality above average; we are not all so well endowed.)
That's why I teach on my board the trade-off concept, which has brought such sarcasm directed at me. I could, if single or widowed, probably get a young attractive woman. But, it would not be a good idea.
However, to take a young widow of good character with children, or Type I unwed mother, whose chances of marrying well in rural areas, are very slim, could be a mutual help pact.
In my case, it would be imperative, because in 1976, I had a vasectomy. This was to protect myself against further life destroying economic burdens placed on men in the US.
So, for me it is essential that a woman must have her child(ren) ahead of time. Also, she must be willing to 'marry' (my term for free union) since we could never marry in the Catholic Church. Um, I guess, yes we could, just not tell the truth.
I do know a man here who when he was 78 had a couple kindergarten age kids by a local indigenous woman, 26 years old. He was a retired, had an old wife in Puebla, very successful civil engineer, who built several universities. A very intellectual man with a winning personality. The indigenous appearance would be the trade-off for many men, I think.
Anonymous age 68
>>BET TO FUCK THE FATHER GETS CHARGED FOR IT EVEN THOUGH THE MOTHER WOULD HAVE DONE IT!!!
My guess is only slightly different. Assuming they were murdered by the mother, which time will tell, my guess is both will be charged.
He will do hard time, even if he did not participate, because he failed somehow to protect them.
She will be deemed to have killed them, and will get, um, 45 days in the mental asylum, because no sane woman could ever kill her own children, hak, barf, at which time she will be labeled cured and turned loose. She will receive many letters from 'men' who propose marriage.
Sarcasm intended.
Although once in a while, some stupid and chivalrous man will claim guilt when he isn't guilty, to spare his poor, poor wife all that prison suffering.
Not me, guys. If my wife killed my kids, screw her, she's going away and I get a new chick, unless I get my hands on her throat in which case she doesn't go to prison.
Anonymous age 68
Great news. Joran van der Sloot confessed to killing a young woman in a fit of rage. One less woman in the world to worry about.
Note to anonymous:
When young women turn away from marriage and go whoring they often end up drunk, drugged, and sometimes dead. If their fathers had guided them into a good life as a wife and mother they would be living a full, rich, wonderful life today.
" Great news. Joran van der Sloot confessed to killing a young woman in a fit of rage. One less woman in the world to worry about."
If a girl, rather than getting married young when she is first able to produce children, instead decides to rob the men of the world who would marry her of her youth, and instead whores about wasting her youth, and then expects men to marry her later in life when she is not a cute young virgin girl... then she's better off dead.
Natalie Holloway was a disgrace to Admiral Holloway's name. She went whoring in Aruba in her late teens/early twenties rather than being married years earlier. She's dead.
Same with this woman.
She's dead too. Same story.
--MikeeUSA--
We must protect men who murder women. Bob, Mikee: your words should be read before the Judge, so these poor prisoners like Joran can be set free. Place blame where it rightly belongs: on the victim. And remind the victims' grieving families that their dead child was merely a whore with no right to life.
Greta's show seems to have changed somewhat. At one time, I called it The Murdered Woman Show.
I did notice over the years that most such murdered women were indeed sluts who whored around.
This actually makes sense in more than one way. This sort of woman uses men for her own desires and lust. She jumps into bed for raw excitement with one man, then as soon as the excitement wears off, she dumps him and flits off with another man, on and on.
She pays no attention to the feelings of the men involved, thinking only of herself and her lusts and excitement.
Most men react in one of two ways. They either enjoy what they get from the hot and promiscuous slut, and hope she is disease free, or they become hostile to women because of being used and dumped, with no violent response.
However, as we all well know, there are a few dangerous men out there who simply do not take rejection well. Um, not at all.
Some will keep going back, begging, trying to get her to understand just how much he loved her - or her body as the case may be - and keeps on until he gets arrested for stalking.
A very few are like this thug. No talking; no discussing; the minute things don't go his way, she is dead.
When men were allowed to be head of the house, girls did not date anyone until the family met him and knew he was safe. Everyone understood women weren't smart enough to filter out dangerous men.
Today, with women in power, no one can tell a woman anything. So, not only do we have a 40+% divorce rate and miserable women who married men they didn't want for reasons known only to themselves. But, a lot of women are indeed killed by crazy men who do not take no for an answer after the whores treat them like garbage.
So, who is surprised by this? Okay, I don't know what came over me. Almost everyone is surprised by this. I am not. This is patriarchy 101.
Bob and I do not always agree 100%. I do not think all women should marry very young, nor did all women marry young -- in the era when women COULD marry young, and married older men who could support them.
They, on an individual basis, were married WHEN THEY WERE READY. What a concept! For some that was at age 13, and for others, as an individual variation, married well into their 20's. Some, thank God, never.
Bob's idea of women having babies first, with a husband to support them, instead of the taxpayers, then study later is not a bad idea for today's society. But, historically, women had babies for a very long time. My wife's grandmother here in Mexico had her first child at age 27 in 1918, her last child at age 46 in 1937. He became an adult in 1955 when she was 64. Then, she raised her 3 orphan grandkids until the late 50's, my wife graduating from high school in 1960, her sister and brother 3 or 4 years behind. So, she raised kids from age 27 until nearly 75.
Her own mother was married at age 14, in 1890, because she happened to be ready at that age. She gave birth when she was 15.
So far, I have found no groom who was younger than 18, which in those days was minimum age to support a wife. Most men tended to marry somewhat young, but widowers often married young, fertile women at an advanced age.
Van der Stupid had a common problem. He took individual women much too seriously.
When I counseled men, I used to tell them, there are around 3 billion women on this planet. And, not one of them is worth spending one minute in jail. If things are going in a direction where your woman might get you stuck in jail, run, do not walk.
Van der Stupid is going to spend the rest of his life in prison, with none of daddy's luxuries. And, his life will not be long. My prediction is he will with his great size and aggressive nature harass; dominate; and torture his fellow prisoners, and some desperate little guy half his size will put a piece of steel in his heart.
All of this for two slutty whores?
Anonymous age 68
>>We must protect men who murder women. Bob, Mikee: your words should be read before the Judge, so these poor prisoners like Joran can be set free. Place blame where it rightly belongs: on the victim. And remind the victims' grieving families that their dead child was merely a whore with no right to life.
June 09, 2010 6:33 PM
Actually, I went back and re-read Bob's words, and I do not think Bob said any such thing. He pointed out the obvious, that women who were raised with morality, which means by their father, would not be hanging with murderous fiends.
This is another case where feminists construct a straw-man, and when someone points out correctly, as Bob did, that women who live a moral life do not often get murdered, they twist it so they claim we are saying they have no right to life. Go pound sand.
Anonymous age 68
Mikee's comments are somewhat different. Sorry you seem to lack reading comprehension and can't tell the difference. Product of the public schools?
"And remind the victims' grieving families that their dead child was merely a whore with no right to life."
They chose to allow their daughter the freedoms of a man rather than enslaving her to marriage at a young age. It was their choice, she's dead now partly because of their inaction.
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Sure, they would have had to have broken a few federal laws, perhaps be killed by police in a shootout when the authorities came to arrest them for the crime of marrying off their daughter young to an older man, but the girl wouldn't be dead by vandersloot's hand.
"Mikee's comments are somewhat different. Sorry you seem to lack reading comprehension and can't tell the difference. Product of the public schools?"
Everyone who you disagree with is a retard. Yep. Only people who think as you do are intelligent. Yep. Hopefully the retards will rage and murder you... they surely cannot express their anger in any other way (nor should they: any other way is ineffective).
I'd love it if you were dropped into a vat of acid.
Anon 68: Are you a christian?
Oops, looks like I have no reading comprehension, that was a response to the feminist person, not from.
Anon 68: I don't want you to be dropped in a vat of acid, I want the feminist people to be (I thought "Anon 68" was just the end of a quotation from you)
If the men's movement were a football team, the quarterback would be sacked by his own team every time he got his hands on the ball.
Ain't that the truth. I've noticed that a lot and it's very counterproductive.
Anonymous May 25, 2010 12:07 PM,
You're the type to hand out white feathers to any man who didn't fight for your matriarchy,calling him a "coward" and "wimp" while excusing women from their roles. Hypocrite full of shit.
The men here in the country consider it great sport to promise marriage, then when the girl is pregnant, tell her to go pound sand.
We're any of them ever migrant workers who worked in the U.S.?
How does I too many logical fallacies to list
Also "cyber libertarian" is another term for "angry white guy in basement"
Men really do need to be careful about young girls. Approaching a girl who is not yet at an approachable age can have negative consequences on that girl for the rest of her life.
I developed relatively early, physically, but at a normal pace mentally. I was approached by much older men with romantic prospects. This scared the hell out of me, especially because I was raised to respect adults, and I could never even imagine being unnecessarily defiant towards my father. Older men were almost a parallel to a father figure.
Even today, I am in my early twenties and I cannot imagine ever being with an older man. It's not that I "dont want his authority" over me- I really don't need to be dominated or controlled, I do that on my own (I think my behavior stems from self worth. My parents never said I would be a slut if I slept around, but they did say that the rarer a commodity the more value it holds. I take pride in knowing that I've maintained my value beyond what the average woman my age has)
Anyway- I simply can't imagine being with an older man because that age disparity creates anxiety- I revert to feeling like a helpless 12 year old girl that does not want to be called sexy by a man who, by age and gender, has social authority over her. Now, I was never raped, but I was feared that this could happen. I was too young to feel flattered by sexual advancements.
Don't spoil young girls like this. I hate that I am forever traumatized. The good thing for me though is that I've managed to find myself a boyfriend of my age who is very set on having children while he is young. Most men my age would want to wait until their mid thirties to have children, and so I would have to wait as well. No way. I do want a career, and I'll explore a career but I will drop everything and get working on having a family before I'm 30. My career will always be there whenever I wish to return to it, but my fertility will not.
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