Violent Dogs belong in a loony bin
Jared Loughner's 3 favorite books on his Facebook page were Hitler's Mein Kampf, Marx's Communist Manifesto, and Ken Kesey's One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Back before the liberal revolution of the 1960s, crazy violent dogs were captured and sent to loony bins where they could be controlled and forced to take mind altering drugs. But that changed.
During the 1960s, we saw the liberal elite championing the “rights” of violent psychotic dogs like Jared Loughner. The plight of such violent loony bin inmates was championed in print by novels such as One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Kesey's 1959 novel was published in 1962. It was taught in liberal college classes, and made into a Broadway play by New York liberal elites. Hollywood liberals made it into a major motion picture in 1975, and awarded it five Academy Awards for its leftist message. Radical leftist organizations like the ACLU championed the “rights” of violent crazy dogs instead of the rights of people to be safe on our streets.
The result of all the left wingnut advocacy was that all the loony bins were closed. Thousands of crazy and violent dogs were just dumped on our streets. We still see them today, wandering our towns and cities. Most of the former loony bin inmates are unable to hold a job, form a marriage, or have a decent life. Most have ended up living on the streets as homeless derelicts. Some die in winter because they don't have the mental capacity to come in out of the cold. Some fight each other and die in the fights. Often they take too much alcohol or other drugs to dull the insane voices in their brains.
The loss of state loony bins is a human tragedy for all the crazies who can't lead productive lives or support themselves and end up dead under bridges in our cities. Like other leftist programs with so-called “good intentions,” closing loony bins did a lot more harm than good. The lack of support for crazies who end up on the streets is horrific, but its not the worst result of the loony leftist closing of loony bins. The crazy violent dogs have been released on the streets along with the harmless crazies.
We just witnessed another mass killing by a crazy violent dog who should have been sent to the Cuckoo's Nest before he committed mass murder. Mass killer Jared Loughner had been known by friends, relatives, acquaintances and authorities for years. Many had been afraid that he would end up killing people. Many were afraid of him. His crazy rantings at Community College classes caused him to be expelled from the school. Professors, administrators, and other students who he met after enrolling at the Community College all feared that he would go crazy and do a mass murder at the College. Other local authorities were well aware that he was a loose cannon waiting to go off. But thanks to the leftist/liberal One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest laws, he could not be sent to a loony bin for protection of the public and himself.
Crazy Violent Dog Jared Loughner
Belonged in the Cuckoo's Nest
Jared Loughner is not the first by a long way. Another infamous mass murder happened recently at Virginia Tech where a nut case named Cho lost it and murdered many students. Cho also had been identified as a violent crazy dog, but because liberal/leftist laws do not allow the people to protect ourselves against mad dogs, he was not sent to a loony bin before he got a weapon and attacked to kill.
These highly publicized incidents are notable only because they got so much public notice. Other crazy violent dogs kill people every week. A century ago they would have been identified and sent to a loony bin, or Cuckoo's Nest where their crazy mind could be controlled, or at least their violent behavior could be blocked.
Over the past week we have heard constant political grandstanding by the loony lefties trying to divert public responsibility from their own crazy laws and to blame conservative voices that teach good sense. The loony lefties rant and twist, spew hate and “blood hate” but never take responsibility for their crimes. They twist and blame, squirm and divert. They try to use the inevitable results of their own leftist laws to make political hay. “Never let a crisis go to waste” even when they caused the crisis.
The glaringly obvious cause of the tragedy in Tuscon, at Virginia Tech, and a thousand others places, is the leftist “do gooder” laws that closed loony bins, emptied the Cuckoo's Nests, and dumped all the crazy violet dogs on the streets. Its a loony lefty problem. Its the ACLU. Its CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, and NY Times who are responsible.
Barry Soetoro said, “None of us can know what could have stopped these shots from being fired.” Bullshit! What could have stopped these shots was sending the crazy mad dog to a loony bin when his crazy violent nature became obvious two years before. What could have stopped this was listening to conservative voices that work to protect the people, not loony lefties that endanger the people by giving Academy Awards for closing loony bins.
It should also be noted that other loony leftist laws do not allow free men with mental problems to medicate themselves. All the common drugs are not available, part of the “War on Drugs.” Violent crazy dogs like Jared always know they are crazy. His favorite book was about the Cuckoo's Nest because he searched for a solution to his own crazy reality Virtually all of them have tried to medicate their own crazy minds. Jared Loughner tried to get marijuana or other drugs, but of course those are illegal and far too expensive for a poor crazy young man who can't hold a job. He was not able to smoke a few more joints to mellow out, nor take some H and curl up in a corner when the daemons in his mind drove him to distraction. He found no legal option for self medication, and the shrinks who evaluated him just dumped him back on the streets.
Its time to stop the left wingnut madness, and go back to protecting the public. Crazy violent dogs need to be sent to the Cuckoo's Nest. Its for their good and for the safety of the public.
During the 1960s, we saw the liberal elite championing the “rights” of violent psychotic dogs like Jared Loughner. The plight of such violent loony bin inmates was championed in print by novels such as One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest. Kesey's 1959 novel was published in 1962. It was taught in liberal college classes, and made into a Broadway play by New York liberal elites. Hollywood liberals made it into a major motion picture in 1975, and awarded it five Academy Awards for its leftist message. Radical leftist organizations like the ACLU championed the “rights” of violent crazy dogs instead of the rights of people to be safe on our streets.
The result of all the left wingnut advocacy was that all the loony bins were closed. Thousands of crazy and violent dogs were just dumped on our streets. We still see them today, wandering our towns and cities. Most of the former loony bin inmates are unable to hold a job, form a marriage, or have a decent life. Most have ended up living on the streets as homeless derelicts. Some die in winter because they don't have the mental capacity to come in out of the cold. Some fight each other and die in the fights. Often they take too much alcohol or other drugs to dull the insane voices in their brains.
The loss of state loony bins is a human tragedy for all the crazies who can't lead productive lives or support themselves and end up dead under bridges in our cities. Like other leftist programs with so-called “good intentions,” closing loony bins did a lot more harm than good. The lack of support for crazies who end up on the streets is horrific, but its not the worst result of the loony leftist closing of loony bins. The crazy violent dogs have been released on the streets along with the harmless crazies.
We just witnessed another mass killing by a crazy violent dog who should have been sent to the Cuckoo's Nest before he committed mass murder. Mass killer Jared Loughner had been known by friends, relatives, acquaintances and authorities for years. Many had been afraid that he would end up killing people. Many were afraid of him. His crazy rantings at Community College classes caused him to be expelled from the school. Professors, administrators, and other students who he met after enrolling at the Community College all feared that he would go crazy and do a mass murder at the College. Other local authorities were well aware that he was a loose cannon waiting to go off. But thanks to the leftist/liberal One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest laws, he could not be sent to a loony bin for protection of the public and himself.
Crazy Violent Dog Jared Loughner
Belonged in the Cuckoo's Nest
Jared Loughner is not the first by a long way. Another infamous mass murder happened recently at Virginia Tech where a nut case named Cho lost it and murdered many students. Cho also had been identified as a violent crazy dog, but because liberal/leftist laws do not allow the people to protect ourselves against mad dogs, he was not sent to a loony bin before he got a weapon and attacked to kill.
These highly publicized incidents are notable only because they got so much public notice. Other crazy violent dogs kill people every week. A century ago they would have been identified and sent to a loony bin, or Cuckoo's Nest where their crazy mind could be controlled, or at least their violent behavior could be blocked.
Over the past week we have heard constant political grandstanding by the loony lefties trying to divert public responsibility from their own crazy laws and to blame conservative voices that teach good sense. The loony lefties rant and twist, spew hate and “blood hate” but never take responsibility for their crimes. They twist and blame, squirm and divert. They try to use the inevitable results of their own leftist laws to make political hay. “Never let a crisis go to waste” even when they caused the crisis.
The glaringly obvious cause of the tragedy in Tuscon, at Virginia Tech, and a thousand others places, is the leftist “do gooder” laws that closed loony bins, emptied the Cuckoo's Nests, and dumped all the crazy violet dogs on the streets. Its a loony lefty problem. Its the ACLU. Its CNN, CBS, NBC, ABC, and NY Times who are responsible.
Barry Soetoro said, “None of us can know what could have stopped these shots from being fired.” Bullshit! What could have stopped these shots was sending the crazy mad dog to a loony bin when his crazy violent nature became obvious two years before. What could have stopped this was listening to conservative voices that work to protect the people, not loony lefties that endanger the people by giving Academy Awards for closing loony bins.
It should also be noted that other loony leftist laws do not allow free men with mental problems to medicate themselves. All the common drugs are not available, part of the “War on Drugs.” Violent crazy dogs like Jared always know they are crazy. His favorite book was about the Cuckoo's Nest because he searched for a solution to his own crazy reality Virtually all of them have tried to medicate their own crazy minds. Jared Loughner tried to get marijuana or other drugs, but of course those are illegal and far too expensive for a poor crazy young man who can't hold a job. He was not able to smoke a few more joints to mellow out, nor take some H and curl up in a corner when the daemons in his mind drove him to distraction. He found no legal option for self medication, and the shrinks who evaluated him just dumped him back on the streets.
Its time to stop the left wingnut madness, and go back to protecting the public. Crazy violent dogs need to be sent to the Cuckoo's Nest. Its for their good and for the safety of the public.
Labels: American Injustice System, Cho, liberals, Politics, Virginia Tech
posted by Bob | Thursday, January 13, 2011
30 Comments:
Looks like both parties and many administrations since the last century have the honor of sharing "credit":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_Drugs
"Although Nixon popularized the term "War on Drugs" when he first used it in 1971, the policies that his administration implemented as part of the Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 were a continuation of drug prohibition policies in the U.S. which stretched back to the year 1914.[4][5][6] The first U.S. law which restricted the distribution and use of certain drugs was the Harrison Narcotics Tax Act of 1914.[8]"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deinstitutionalisation
"Deinstitutionalization is the process of replacing long-stay psychiatric hospitals with less isolated community mental health services for those diagnosed with mental disorder or developmental disability. Deinstitutionalzsation can have two definitions. The first definition focuses on reducing the population size of mental institutions. This can be accomplished by releasing individuals from institutions, shortening the length of stays, and reducing both admissions and readmission.[1] The second definition refers to removing institutional processes from mental hospitals that may create dependency, hopelessness, learned helplessness, and other maladaptive behaviors.[1]
In many cases, the mass deinstitutionalisation of the mentally ill in the Western world from the 1960s onwards has translated into policies of "community release". Individuals who previously would have been in mental institutions are no longer supervised by health care workers. Many are left to their own devices in regards to maintaining their personal medication regimens."
tbc:
cont'd:
The so-called "war on drugs" is and has always been a failure, as was the attempt at prohibiting the sale and consumption of alcohol. Both had only the consequences of criminalizing citizens and encouraging violent and organized criminal activity. Neither party or any administration has had any success with it.
Forced institutionalization of the mentally ill has a long and terrible history. There are no good solutions. The former Soviet Union used it too silence political dissent. It is easy to outlaw unpopular opinion as "crazy" or "irrational" towards any group. Is religious fundamentalism a sign of mental illness, or piety? Is violent rhetoric incitement to criminal activity, or protected speech?
It is very easy with 20-20 hindsight to say that Loughton, Cho, the Columbine shooters or any other killers showed many "red flags," and they did. If you were to travel back to the early 1960s you might say the same of Martin Luther King Jr., who had the insane idea of racial equality. Or further back to the suffragettes. Or to Martin Luther, who defied the Catholic Church, the greatest power of his time. Those who defied the Church often lost their lives, or were also labeled as insane, or even possessed.
tbc:
cont'd:
In Loughton's case, his incoherent and paranoid ramblings clearly indicate a deeply disturbed mind. It is a shame that his family didn't have the ability to recommend him for care. But enforced hospitalization can be a very slippery slope, as in the former Soviet Union. Don't think for a moment that it can't happen here. It can, and likely will.
Is someone insane who believes in government conspiracies, regardless of the party in power? Possibly, or not. Is the pastor of a megachurch (take your pick) insane to preach that Satan is at work in the modern world? They think so, but not everyone agrees. Is someone who disagrees with a majority religious belief insane, possessed, or in league with Satan, as the Church once held true?
Loughton needed help, and I am in favor of less restrictive laws that would let families get evaluations for loved ones, but not automatic incarceration for erratic behavior. It's a slippery slope and I don't trust the government, either party, with that kind of power.
Does that make me insane? I'm sure they would say so.
Note to anonymous:
In Loughton's case everyone who knew him knew that he was crazy and violent. Everyone expected that he would do something like this. From his parents, to friends, to college classmates, to college teachers and administrators, to "public safety" agencies, everyone who knew him expected something like this. For years people were scared of him, but under liberal law, you cannot send people to the loony bin without their consent.
Families should have greater freedom in attempting to get help for family members displaying poor mental health. Not involuntary commitment automatically but maybe a psych evaluation. Cho might have been helped, so might Loughton since his father knew he was erratic. Your poster Mikee has been sending up red flags for years but can't be helped by his parents. THere ought to be a compromise somewhere between not infringing on personal freedom and trying to prevent tragedies like in Tucson.
The congresswoman is doing well. My best wishes to her and her families as well as the other victims. To whoever called the dead child a "cunt" in another thread, you are a red flag. Please seek help for yourself.
Agh hahahaha he doesn't have Asperger's syndrome he is a psychopath!
Now I'm confused. Loughner is a mentally ill young man, rejected by the military because of his untreated mental problems, dislikes women intensely and thinks they should have no power or standing, and who armed himself and killed and wounded innocent people. How i he different from Marc Lepine, who was also mentally ill and a military reject who resented women, armed himself and killed and wounded innocent people. But you think Lepine is somehow a hero, and dislike Loughner? Why? They're pretty much identical except Loughner also bagged a little girl with a promising life ahead of her. I'd think you'd like him even more than Lepine.
Note to anonymous:
Loughner is a nutter who just killed anyone. He should not be compared to Marc Lepine who made war against feminists. Killing in war is a whole different thing than random killing by a nutter.
"a little girl with a promising life ahead of her."
Who are you kidding? She would have ended up an empowered whore like the rest of her generation, the generation before her, the generation before that, and the generation before that.
Oh, but you don't see any problem with that either.
Girls are taught to be feminist activists from almost the beginning:
http://www.tonic.com/article/our-daughters-world-national-daughters-week/
Rather than being married off once they're able to have children and taught to obey their husband in all things.
Yes, a very promising life. Her mother had brought her to the event to help her better understand the democratic process. The little girl had recently been elected to her own student government. She had friends, played ball, and did well in school. She had a very good life ahead of her that was tragically and senselessly cut short, as were the lives of five other innocent people. Others were pointlessly wounded.
And no, I don't see any problem with how the kid would have grown up. You're quite right there. What's your problem with it?
"The little girl had recently been elected to her own student government."
This is laughable in itself, aside from the tragic murder of a little girl. A student government is nothing more then a popularity contest. It is to see who is the best at leading consensus of opinion, while deflecting attention from real issues of substance...oh wait that's what "real" politics is about.
The congresswoman's condition has been upgraded from serious to good. Loughner faces the death penalty. He'll die and she'll live. I wonder how he feels about that. I hope it pisses him off a lot.
"He'll die and she'll live. I wonder how he feels about that. I hope it pisses him off a lot."
Guess the bunch of other people who died doesn't matter. Only if one of the elect gets hurt does it matter.
She was his intended target. He deliberately planned her murder. The judge, the little girl and the four others were horrible tragedies, but not who Loughner wanted to kill. He's a complete loser and failed to kill his target. I hope it eats at him while he waits to be executed for his crimes.
I hope it eats at him while he waits to be executed for his crimes.
I hope that at some point he realizes what a useless, worthless waste of meat he is and that his death will leave the world better off. Completely worthless. Contributed nothing at all to society and took decent people out of it. Heard a brief interview with one of the wounded; the judge shoved him out of danger under a table before being gunned down. THAT was a man. Another of the dead was shot while protecting his wife of 40-50 years. THAT was a man. I don't know what Loughner is, but he's nothing like a man.
Gimme a Break
Look's like Mangina ELAM has a new Radio show!
Great Look's like Mangina Elam bans me from even interacting at his site. what a wanker
Note to Peter:
Yep, that's how Elam operates. Anyone who says something he disagrees with gets banned from his site.
American Muslim guilty of beheading his wife:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41464521/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/?gt1=43001
I don't mind you bob you are good in my books elams a bit flakey that man has some serious "issues" that need to be sorted
Hey Bob they do say POWER CORRUPTS AT IT'S HIGHEST LEVELS Wonder if that is what is wrong with Paul Elam.
Must be hard for him being 1/3rd mangina, 1/3rd white knight and 1/3rd free thinker what a clash of persona's
His radio show must be going to his head bloating it.
He doesn't realise his "site" will be the death of him.
I hope Loughner is okay now locked away "safe" Maybe that's what he wanted for people to do care for him maybe it WAS a psi-ops thing he was going through who bloody knows
Note to anonymous: (February 07, 2011 6:44 PM)
1. What kind of nut reads MSNBC? A loony libtard.
2. Mr. Hassan began a TV station to promote "better understanding" of Muslim culture. He is successful in his efforts.
3. American law is run by manginess and feminists. A husband has a responsibility to deal effectively with an adulterous wife.
Save a whale, HARPOON A FAT CHIC
How do you turn a fox into an elephant? MARRY IT!
>>>Maybe that's what he wanted for people to do care for him
What kind of freak commits mass murder to get someone to "care for him"? There's community services for that if someone is incapable of forming normal relationships.
>>>Save a whale, HARPOON A FAT CHIC
Peter must be the paragon of physical perfection. A greek statue come to life. Do you have the perfect physique that women crave?
To the above comment grow the fuck up some psychopathic nutbags do this because they know they are "special"
Why don't you grow a fucking beard it was a Joke Mr Mangina brown I've got a better physique then you'll ever have.
Is that you ELAM is it..
We all have a moral obligation to be thin.
I see your point. You have good "food for thought"
But, I believe for violent loonies recreational drugs are counter-indicated. They might drive borderline cases over the edge.
Or do you have evidence to the contrary?
Other then that, I am in favor of liberating drugs. Even if I am not in favor of using them (normally).
This is actually a very tricky issue.
There are the perfectly sane genius type loonie misfits, which might include you and me. Lots of such people got locked away and electro shocked for creative misfit behavior.
Then there are the totally harmless and non-violent nut cases.
The really violent guys like in this case are probably a small minority. And hard to identify.
It would be good if such people could be under surveillance, independent of the fact if they are crazy or just plain criminal minds. Of course, that is difficult for being at odds with our constitutional rights.
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