The myth of motherly love.
Some misandrist bitch wrote a comment to Bob, "your mother still loves you." What a crock of feminazi shit. Mothers, by and large, hate their sons. Mothers are very abusive and violent to boys. Child abuse statistics show that mothers are twice as abusive to children as fathers or anyone else and the excessive motherly abuse is directed at their boys while the girls are pampered. Motherly abuse includes all kinds of sexual abuse as well as torture, starvation, confinement, beating and you name it. Mommy murder is the leading cause of death for boys less than 10 years old. Millions of boys are now on zombie drugs. Sexual mutilation of boys in the US outnumbers all other violent crimes against children and all other violent sex crimes combined. Mothers today were taught feminist prejudice against boys and men by their feminazi mothers and school teachers, and deeply believe that their sons are some kind of scum. They are lucky that MEN are loving, kind, and gentle by nature or they would reap vengeance for all the child abuse they have done.
No, anonymous, mothers by and large DO NOT love their sons. Mothers kill and abuse their sons in huge numbers, and when grown still harbor deep misandry for the rest of their lives. Your feminazi myths about mothers love is just another of the pack of feminist lies that your mother told you.
No, anonymous, mothers by and large DO NOT love their sons. Mothers kill and abuse their sons in huge numbers, and when grown still harbor deep misandry for the rest of their lives. Your feminazi myths about mothers love is just another of the pack of feminist lies that your mother told you.
posted by Bob | Sunday, April 09, 2006
15 Comments:
I hate feminism as much as you do mate.
But you are drifting into the same cloud-cuckoo land territory as the feminazis with this thread my friend.
Most parental abuse is indeed carried out by mothers, rather than fathers. Women are also the initiators and perpetrators of the majority of domestic violence incidents.
But making statements such as "....mothers by and large DO NOT love their sons. Mothers kill and abuse their sons in huge numbers, and when grown still harbor deep misandry for the rest of their lives. Your feminazi myths about mothers love is just another of the pack of feminist lies that your mother told you" is not only a load of absolute crap - it is very counter-productive.
The vital and worthy cause of antifeminism does not need this sort of thing. The only fuel it requires in its ideological tank is the derv of truth, reality, maturity, common-sense and reason. Antifeminism already has such things in its favor with regard to its battle against the contemporary women's movement - which has become "the greatest intellectual crime of the second half on the twentieth century".
There is just no need to start picking malicious bull-shit out of the air to make a point. Two wrongs do not make a right.
Dear Peter,
You say that you hate feminism, yet you expound on the myth of motherly love. Like many men today you were taught the myths of feminist dogma along with your mother's milk. Like many MEN today you believe the dogma as "the truth" because its what you were taught. Yes, you are right that truth is what MEN need to oppose feminism, and repeating feminist dogma and prejudicial myths will never get us to the truth. Next time why not bone up on your reality and common sense before repeating feminist myths as "truth." Their propaganda really isn't truth no matter how many times they repeat it.
Feminist dogma invloves brainwashing people into believeing that instinctive motherly love is a myth - not the other way around.
Perhaps the greatest evil of today's women's movement, and the source of so much contemporary social grief in many western societies (which is destined to become considerably worse), is the attempt that is being made to turn women away from motherhood, marriage and the family by suggesting (totally falsely) that there is no reward for those women who value and choose to focus upon such things as the cornerstone of their lives.
The "reality and common sense" that I am calling upon when I suggested that your statement "...mothers by and large DO NOT love their sons. Mothers kill and abuse their sons in huge numbers" is both counter productive and ridiculous really needs little explanation.
Listen Bob - by and large, to date, I have loved your online material - one of many antifeminist websites I visit regularly. But you are looking in the rear view mirror with this one.
Trashing innate motherly love is not only wrong and false - it is what feminazis do, not antifeminists.
I guess we'll have to agree to disagree Peter. Men are biologically programmed to love and protect our families. Women are biologically programmed to love and protect themselves. That's why feminism works. Women are out for themselves and men are still protecting and supporting them. Nobody is taking care of the needs of men or boys. Mothers are women like any other women, nothing special. They are biologically programmed to love and take care of themselves. These days they are trained to hate men and everything male, including their own boys. Feminist myths, including the glorification of motherhood, is all part of their grand scheme to protect themselves and hate men.
Well, within all noble causes there are many occasions when people must 'agree to disagree' - that has been one of the greatest flaws of feminism. Right from the start, bit by bit, the proportion of extremists with their hands on its helm have increased. This has been going on right back from day one. From the age of the Suffragettes, to that of Women's Liberation, through to Equity and Radical Feminism. And gradually, within the women's movement, the privilege of being able to 'agree to disagree' effectively vanished - dissent and an alternative opinion within the mainstream was simply not tolerated. Thus the creed of one-dimensional fanaticism, malice and lunacy, which is the contemporary women's movement, was born.
That is why I know feminism will lose and in time be seen for what it truly is - a pseudo-religion of destructive, evil, insanity.
Meanwhile from one antifeminist to another, I must disagree when you say (as civilized people fighting for our civilization, we are allowed to do this).
"Feminist myths, including the glorification of motherhood.."
I have always had the impression (and still do) that feminist mythology involves the demonization of motherhood and family.
No matter. Keep the blood pressure up and your key-board busy. Most of your views have a great deal in common with my own.
Regards,
Peter. (UK).
I agree with Peter. Bob, you are showing a hatered for all women with this argument, and that does not help your cause.
If women are inately selfish and unloving than what's the point? You want to program them to be what you desire, just as feminists do.
I thought we just wanted to let women be women.
I sympathize with your perspective Peter, but still disagree. For documentation see "MY ENEMY MY LOVE" (Hardcover) by Judith Levine " http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0385410794 Amazon Review: "This post-feminist treatise discusses gender stereotypes and the reasons why man-hating exists in our culture. According to Levine, women hate their lovers, fathers, and even sons--although not without ambivalence."
A fundamental tenet of feminist is "women>good, men>bad" The myth of motherly love is a long time part of their "women>good" dogma. Hating boys comes with "men>bad." Levine accurately describes the post-feminist female, including mothers.
Meanwhile, Peter, keep up the good work. All those feminazi hate mongers need MEN to object to their lies.
Bob
http://www.womenasmothers.blogspot.com/aka. NYMOM is a Mother, A Feminist and typical of the mindset of many Feminist Women. Peter you should read some of the Feminists blogs and how they really feel about Men. Understand it is Men who have tried in vain for decades to get Feminists to meet us halfway. They see Men they see the enemy. There can be no compromise with the Evil Patriarchy.
Men have Rape Penises. And are violent Sexual Animals. This is what they are teaching our young Women in Colleges as well. Sadly the days that we could have a dialog with these mentally ill harpies has passed us by. Sad to say. It is indeed sad.
khankrumthebulgar
I totally agree with you Khankrumthebulgar.
I think you misunderstand what I was discussing with Bob and where I am coming from.
I am very familiar with the frenzied and hateful nature of the modern women's movement.
We were disputing, not the general intensity of feminist malice (which has trickled into the consciences of most women, in varying degrees) - but how it manifests itself with regard to just one aspect of human life (albeit a very important one) - motherhood.
Bob believes that innate maternal love is largely imaginary and has been deliberately exaggerated to be used as a feminist weapon. He sees this as some sort of ploy with the underhand theme of 'we are so benevolent and loving - how can you criticise or think ill of us' - as a form of defensive banner.
Whereas I believe that the importance of motherhood and innate maternal love has been vehemently, openly and deliberately savaged by feminism over the years because the women's movement is obsessed with the ridiculous fantasy of human cultures being organised around the vision of humanity being androgenous and 'gender blind' - with any remaining and sanctioned favoritism (as they see it)benefitting women.
I believe that feminists are actually frightened of motherhood. The radical feminist, Patricia Hewitt, who is the Trade and Industry Secretary in Tony Blair's government in my own country, the UK, once declared - "Full time motherhood should simply not be allowed, should not be an option for women. Because far too many women would readily take that option".
For the record she has since been criticised for that remark (by many women) and has been forced to eat her words.
But feminists hate, and are frightened of the abstract concept of motherhood from an idelogical and political perspective. Not their own - when it comes to the real thing. And I do not believe they despise their own sons. A handful of weirdos might- but not generally.
There are many, and a growing number of people, because of feminism, who have become, quite understandably, ardent misogynists. Extremism creates and realises its own antithesis. But I think you would find that the justified loathing that many people are beginning to feel towards women would exempt their own family - particularly the young.
Bob is right to the extent that sometimes feminists do use exactly the tactic he is describing. But feminists (and many women generally) are notorious for sometimes using the truth, when it suits them, and completely distorting or exaggerating it as a weapon to be used for their own advantage. And then readily denying or ignoring it when it suits them.
As the senior 'exorcist' warned his understudy in the movie of the same name "the devil is a liar - but he will sometimes mix lies with the truth to attack us".
I hate to us the dialogue of a pretty repulsive film to make a point - but in this case it is very relevant to what we are talking about.
On the issue of motherhood, when we look at declining birth rates across all western nations - which have had the universal effect of witnessing them fall below necessary inter-generational replacement levels - a trend which is going to cause immense social harm in the not too distant future - a trend which has paralleled the increasing influence of feminism around the western world and the increasing focus of women upon work, rather than family, encouraged by feminism - this is proof that feminism sees motherhood as a hated millstone, association with which is a hindrance to their ideals - not a badge of honour.
Looking at the greater overall picture, feminism is a quasi-religious creed that is fuelled, primarily, by hatred, deceit and, most significantly, outrageous lies.
So believe me K. when I tell you I have not had the wool pulled over my eyes by the contemporary women's movement - and I am very familiar with the mindset of feminists and the raw evil that exists within the hearts of many feminist blogs, which you refer to, - and most impotantly within the mind and hearts of feminists who have, for now, been granted power and authority within our society.
Peter,
Are you aware of the abuse and violence against children and which gender does most of the violence? With the removal of Fathers from homes our children have become the target of violence which is excused by Women as Post Partum Depression or some other nonsense.
Women's violent behavior is always marginalized or excused and Men's violence is condemned. There is a double standard in operation here. And it is getting worse all the time. It is a fact sans their biological Fathers children are 33 times more at risk from violence than when their Fathers are present.
Khankrumthebulgar
I heard it said that this is true, but I find it hard to believe. What's not to love about a baby boy? What's not to love about a son? He's "little man" and he brings so much joy and hope into a woman's world.
Here is what I believe as this is Bob's Blog and he has trouble expressing himself. I believe that Men and Women must be taught responsibility, ethics, morality, familial obligations, kindness in short how we comport ourselves in a Civilized culture. Feminism and the decline of the Family has broken the mechanism for this cultural transmission.
Young Boys do not learn anger Management from Women. They are hard wired differently. If you see how Pussy Whipped younger Men are it is just disgusting. Our watch out of control Children being pleaded with to behave by Mommy Dearest.
I had one little jewel try to kick me in a Subway Store in North Texas. In front of his mommy and Daddy I informed the little Hellion I would turn him over my Knee and paddle his little ass. He ran crying to Mommy Dearest. She was stunned at my declaration. I told the little Hellion's Father.
"Hey Buddy why don't you get your Balls out of your wife's purse and discipline your little Jewel". There were gasps of shock in the store. Behind the counter an older Black Woman said to the younger Woman.
"Take a good Look Honey that is a Real Man, there aren't many of them Left anymore".
Khankrumthebulgar
I think you've strongly overstated the case.
There are some abusive mothers, certainly. But in general, no. The most, you could say that many mothers do not understand boys and expect them to be like girls.
I love men. I wish things weren't as they are today. I have raised my 4 boys, and stayed at home to do so. My husband supports the family and works outside the home.
I feel that men have been punished by women in many ways over the years for perceived injustices.
I have nothing but love and respect for my boys. I like that they act like boys. I do not wish for them to act like girls. My husband and I did not have them circumsized because we feel that it is mutilation.
There is no myth on my part. I truly do love my boys and my husband. Oh, and by the way, if my husband had wanted me to get a job, I would have.
Women wanted equal rights let em' turn a wrench. Who cares. They can hold the door for me. Equal rights not just for convenience.
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