Fixing the American Injustice System
The Anonymous Lieyer keeps asking Bob for suggestions on improving the American Injustice System (AIS). It was really too long to be posted as a comment on another topic, and the AIS is such an important topic that Bob has created this article for the topic.
The problems with the AIS are so extensive that most of it should just be torn down. Most so-called “crime” exists only for the purpose of fighting “crime.” The “drug business” now supports the MAJORITY of blue suits, Agents of Satan in black robes of Hell, prisons, parole boards, chain gang labor contractors, etc. The only purpose of the drug business is to justify “fighting crime.” The harm that the drub business of the AIS does is far worse than was caused before drugs became illegal. The use of drugs is still about the same small percentage of the population. Making drugs illegal was originally justified to stop black men from raping white girls, a bold face lie. Fighting drugs is hugely worse than the harm which would result if the laws were just ended and prisoners released. Cocaine is not as addictive as tobacco, but we don’t have massive corruption, robbery, murder, and millions of men sent to prison for tobacco. Like alcohol prohibition the AIS drug business creates massive crime, violence, and corruption. Like alcohol prohibition it needs to be repealed.
The rest of this article consists of questions by an anonymous lieyer, herein “me” and responses by Bob. Some of Bob’s previous comments were included in the lieyer’s questions.
Me say: I never asked if it was better just what would you replace it with. I agree there is so much injustice. I think of the man in Alabama who while serving a long sentence for rape was cleared by DNA but the prosecutor would not file the papers to release him because "he was found guilty by a jury" and it took close to 2 years to get him out. But we need something maybe not for the victimless crimes so to speak but what about the ted bundys, dahmers, etc of our society?
Bob says“Convicted by a jury” is a term that describes the complete corruption of the AIS. Juries are selected to be ignorant stupid people who are unable to think for themselves. Then they are treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark with shit poured on their heads. If there was any intention of JUSTICE, the juries would effectively control the courtroom. The JURY could ask the questions, subpoena witnesses, decide what evidence it needs to consider and what it does not need, and tell lieyers to sit down and shut the fuck up. The AIS abandoned even the charade of “justice” long ago. Their public policy is only to decide which lieyer or expensive team of lieyers gave the best performance. Justice, and guilt or innocence, has absolutely nothing to do with the AIS. The AIS uses stupid ignorant juries to railroad men, not to find justice.
For example, in one case in NYC, there were two different men being tried for the same murder in adjacent court rooms. The Persecutor is legally required to be convinced of the guilt of the accused before bringing charges, and the two cases were mutually exclusive proof that he believed in the guild of neither man. But the lying criminals in black robes of hell accepted both cases. Most of them are worse criminals than the accused, like Filthy Turd Nifong.
If there was JUSTICE, a false accusation would be punished with the same punishment that the accused would have received had he been guilty. In previous times with a legal system focused on justice, that was the law. No persecutor would bring charges unless he was damn sure that the accused person was guilty, and damn sure he could prove it. The epidemic of false rape accusations, false “abuse” accusations, etc., would come to a rapid end. We would not have two different men tried for the same murder in adjacent courtrooms.
The very few examples of guilty parties like Dahmer, or mothers who kill their children could be taken out and hanged summarily by a real jury doing real justice.
me say: True and the correctional guard as a career is the fastest growing career. now we have for profit prison and our tax money pays to keep prisoners in them and they are even worse than the state prisons. what a society, kill education money and spend it for profit prison, even the state prisons are run by those who tend to make money off it. Agree, we have more prisoners than Russia and look at the nations we share the death penalty with..
Bob said previously: There is a very sexist bias against men throughout the AIS from first contact to end of parole and beyond.
me say: Just curious how does this equate to bias against men. there are also more women in prison in the US than ever before in history and women have faced the death penalty too. yes, maybe women get it easier in court as a result of only recently becoming more and more active in crime (or getting caught) however, I would say the system bias is against the non white male more than just against men.
Bob saysThere is a well documented systematic bias against men from the first phone call to the blue gun thugs, all the way trough the system. Even with the recent percentage increase in arrest of females, about 24 of ever 25 men in prison are there for the “crime” of being born male. Females who do the exact same violent acts and often worse, are mostly still home with their families.
The systematic AIS bias against men begins with the first contact with blue gun thugs and lasts through the whole AIS.
Typical of the prejudice of the AIS, a recent court sentenced a female murderess to pay for her victim's funeral and not kill anyone else for 5 years. Read story Men guilty of the same kind of gang murder often spend several decades in brutal hellhole prisons.
Black men have a somewhat higher percentage of men in prisons than white men, but that may be because the so-called “crimes” such as the AIS’s drug business, are done more by minority groups. Even so, white men are persecuted far more than black or white women. The well publicized Duke University Lacrosse Team case is an example of systematic sexist bias in the AIS. Overall, the AIS persecutes men 25 times as often as females. Bob has previously called for “Affirmative Action” in punishment and a moratorium on conviction of men for any crime until the historic sexist imbalance has been corrected. See Demand of Men
Bob said previously: The AIS is arguably the worst legal system in the entire history of mankind.
me say: what are you comparing it to, show me something better, more workable.
Bob says: Compare to any other nation in the history of mankind and the US has more men in prison and a higher percentage of men in prison than any other nation, ever. In some American cities like Cleveland for example, the majority of men are now “convicted felons.” Those statistics are prima fascia evidence that our AIS is the worst ever. It has destroyed the lives of more men than any other illegal system anywhere, any time.
Society would work better, and far fewer lives would be destroyed, if all the blue gun thugs, lieyers, Agents of Satan in black robes of hell, and prison guards were impaled in a line down main street, and their bodies left to rot. There would still be a small number of crimes, but most people would soon protect themselves. The total death and destruction of men, families, and lives would be far, far less than we have today. The first thing the AIS does is to prevent good men from protecting ourselves. They don’t protect us either, as the AIS has proven to SCOUS, and we are left without protection from violence. The second thing the AIS does is to capture and destroy as many men as they can find to destroy. Without the AIS we free citizens could protect ourselves and rejoice in a return to freedom without Big Brother Police State supervising every part of our lives.
Bob has made numerous other suggestions for less severe improvements, such as introducing “fair” trials by jury, a return to “justice” rather than judging between preening lieyers, Affirmative Action, and elimination of faux crimes created solely for the purpose of “fighting crime.”
Bob said previouslyLike the end of Prohibition, it's time to recognize that the whole radical feminist social experiment has been the worst disaster for families and children ever conceived, and to repeal the whole misandrist anti-family hate laws that underlay the social disaster.
me say: again how do you go there from there etc? Women are people are free and some choose to work, some have to work, and some get educated and some don't just like men, we are all different and you keep lumping us all together, I was not out burning my bra and I did not support ERA but I need to work and support my family since my ex husband chooses to drink alcohol to excess instead of work. should I go on welfare or work? you have points that are good but then you spit out the party line, your party line and it doesn’t fit, make it fit, make it pertinent, make it realistic.
Bob saysI don’t recall any pre-feminism laws that prevented females from working. Females have always worked. What is needed is to eliminate the sexist laws that make females into a special protected class and turn men into criminals for being born male.
The problems with the AIS are so extensive that most of it should just be torn down. Most so-called “crime” exists only for the purpose of fighting “crime.” The “drug business” now supports the MAJORITY of blue suits, Agents of Satan in black robes of Hell, prisons, parole boards, chain gang labor contractors, etc. The only purpose of the drug business is to justify “fighting crime.” The harm that the drub business of the AIS does is far worse than was caused before drugs became illegal. The use of drugs is still about the same small percentage of the population. Making drugs illegal was originally justified to stop black men from raping white girls, a bold face lie. Fighting drugs is hugely worse than the harm which would result if the laws were just ended and prisoners released. Cocaine is not as addictive as tobacco, but we don’t have massive corruption, robbery, murder, and millions of men sent to prison for tobacco. Like alcohol prohibition the AIS drug business creates massive crime, violence, and corruption. Like alcohol prohibition it needs to be repealed.
The rest of this article consists of questions by an anonymous lieyer, herein “me” and responses by Bob. Some of Bob’s previous comments were included in the lieyer’s questions.
Me say: I never asked if it was better just what would you replace it with. I agree there is so much injustice. I think of the man in Alabama who while serving a long sentence for rape was cleared by DNA but the prosecutor would not file the papers to release him because "he was found guilty by a jury" and it took close to 2 years to get him out. But we need something maybe not for the victimless crimes so to speak but what about the ted bundys, dahmers, etc of our society?
Bob says“Convicted by a jury” is a term that describes the complete corruption of the AIS. Juries are selected to be ignorant stupid people who are unable to think for themselves. Then they are treated like mushrooms, kept in the dark with shit poured on their heads. If there was any intention of JUSTICE, the juries would effectively control the courtroom. The JURY could ask the questions, subpoena witnesses, decide what evidence it needs to consider and what it does not need, and tell lieyers to sit down and shut the fuck up. The AIS abandoned even the charade of “justice” long ago. Their public policy is only to decide which lieyer or expensive team of lieyers gave the best performance. Justice, and guilt or innocence, has absolutely nothing to do with the AIS. The AIS uses stupid ignorant juries to railroad men, not to find justice.
For example, in one case in NYC, there were two different men being tried for the same murder in adjacent court rooms. The Persecutor is legally required to be convinced of the guilt of the accused before bringing charges, and the two cases were mutually exclusive proof that he believed in the guild of neither man. But the lying criminals in black robes of hell accepted both cases. Most of them are worse criminals than the accused, like Filthy Turd Nifong.
If there was JUSTICE, a false accusation would be punished with the same punishment that the accused would have received had he been guilty. In previous times with a legal system focused on justice, that was the law. No persecutor would bring charges unless he was damn sure that the accused person was guilty, and damn sure he could prove it. The epidemic of false rape accusations, false “abuse” accusations, etc., would come to a rapid end. We would not have two different men tried for the same murder in adjacent courtrooms.
The very few examples of guilty parties like Dahmer, or mothers who kill their children could be taken out and hanged summarily by a real jury doing real justice.
me say: True and the correctional guard as a career is the fastest growing career. now we have for profit prison and our tax money pays to keep prisoners in them and they are even worse than the state prisons. what a society, kill education money and spend it for profit prison, even the state prisons are run by those who tend to make money off it. Agree, we have more prisoners than Russia and look at the nations we share the death penalty with..
Bob said previously: There is a very sexist bias against men throughout the AIS from first contact to end of parole and beyond.
me say: Just curious how does this equate to bias against men. there are also more women in prison in the US than ever before in history and women have faced the death penalty too. yes, maybe women get it easier in court as a result of only recently becoming more and more active in crime (or getting caught) however, I would say the system bias is against the non white male more than just against men.
Bob saysThere is a well documented systematic bias against men from the first phone call to the blue gun thugs, all the way trough the system. Even with the recent percentage increase in arrest of females, about 24 of ever 25 men in prison are there for the “crime” of being born male. Females who do the exact same violent acts and often worse, are mostly still home with their families.
The systematic AIS bias against men begins with the first contact with blue gun thugs and lasts through the whole AIS.
The blue gun thugs are much more likely to respond for a female “victim” than a male victim. The female perpetrator’s assault often just gets ignored.
The blue gun thugs often arrest the man when he reprots that he is the victim of female violence.
The blue gun thugs are more likely to arrest a man and let a female go for identical crimes, or when they committed the same crime together.
Poison is the most common weapon for female committed murders, and is generally not reported as crime. Females also are rarely prosecuted for crimes and even murder against children.
If arrested the female is more likely to be released on reduced bail.
If arrested the man is more likely to be prosecuted.
IF arrested the female is much more likely to be offered a reduced sentence for testifying against the man.
If prosecuted the female is likely to be charged with a lesser crime.
There are numerous female only defenses that are commonly used by lieyers to convince a jury not to convict.
If prosecuted the female is more likely to be found “not guilty.”
If found guilty the female will often be found guilty of a lesser crime.
If convicted the female will usually get a much lese severe sentence for the same crime.
If convicted the female is more likely to be sentenced to parole instead of prison for the same crime.
If sentenced to prison the female will get her sentenced reduced by parole much sooner.
If sent to prison the female prisons are much less brutal, some are almost resort like. Sometimes her children can even live with her while in prison.
If in prison the female is far less likely to be charged with other “prison crimes” and have her sentence extended.
Females will usually not be forced to join prison gangs, violently assaulted, raped, and abused while in prisons.
And finally, she will be paroled sooner and will have better resources for the transition back to society.
Typical of the prejudice of the AIS, a recent court sentenced a female murderess to pay for her victim's funeral and not kill anyone else for 5 years. Read story Men guilty of the same kind of gang murder often spend several decades in brutal hellhole prisons.
Black men have a somewhat higher percentage of men in prisons than white men, but that may be because the so-called “crimes” such as the AIS’s drug business, are done more by minority groups. Even so, white men are persecuted far more than black or white women. The well publicized Duke University Lacrosse Team case is an example of systematic sexist bias in the AIS. Overall, the AIS persecutes men 25 times as often as females. Bob has previously called for “Affirmative Action” in punishment and a moratorium on conviction of men for any crime until the historic sexist imbalance has been corrected. See Demand of Men
Bob said previously: The AIS is arguably the worst legal system in the entire history of mankind.
me say: what are you comparing it to, show me something better, more workable.
Bob says: Compare to any other nation in the history of mankind and the US has more men in prison and a higher percentage of men in prison than any other nation, ever. In some American cities like Cleveland for example, the majority of men are now “convicted felons.” Those statistics are prima fascia evidence that our AIS is the worst ever. It has destroyed the lives of more men than any other illegal system anywhere, any time.
Society would work better, and far fewer lives would be destroyed, if all the blue gun thugs, lieyers, Agents of Satan in black robes of hell, and prison guards were impaled in a line down main street, and their bodies left to rot. There would still be a small number of crimes, but most people would soon protect themselves. The total death and destruction of men, families, and lives would be far, far less than we have today. The first thing the AIS does is to prevent good men from protecting ourselves. They don’t protect us either, as the AIS has proven to SCOUS, and we are left without protection from violence. The second thing the AIS does is to capture and destroy as many men as they can find to destroy. Without the AIS we free citizens could protect ourselves and rejoice in a return to freedom without Big Brother Police State supervising every part of our lives.
Bob has made numerous other suggestions for less severe improvements, such as introducing “fair” trials by jury, a return to “justice” rather than judging between preening lieyers, Affirmative Action, and elimination of faux crimes created solely for the purpose of “fighting crime.”
Bob said previouslyLike the end of Prohibition, it's time to recognize that the whole radical feminist social experiment has been the worst disaster for families and children ever conceived, and to repeal the whole misandrist anti-family hate laws that underlay the social disaster.
me say: again how do you go there from there etc? Women are people are free and some choose to work, some have to work, and some get educated and some don't just like men, we are all different and you keep lumping us all together, I was not out burning my bra and I did not support ERA but I need to work and support my family since my ex husband chooses to drink alcohol to excess instead of work. should I go on welfare or work? you have points that are good but then you spit out the party line, your party line and it doesn’t fit, make it fit, make it pertinent, make it realistic.
Bob saysI don’t recall any pre-feminism laws that prevented females from working. Females have always worked. What is needed is to eliminate the sexist laws that make females into a special protected class and turn men into criminals for being born male.
Labels: Crime, false accusation, false conviction, Justice, Lawyers, police state, Punishment
posted by Bob | Saturday, December 08, 2007
14 Comments:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/342739_abuse08.html
Notice how she has an ex-husband. Worthless woman. Divorced her husband or drove him to leave her.
Women in ages past could always work as domestic servants, dishwashers, whores, nannies, fruit pickers, sweat shop seamstress...
But decent well paying CAREERS (law, medicine, banking, engineering, etc.) were restricted to White males. That has changed.
Note to anonymous:
Those feminazi hate propaganda lies don't fly here bitch. Save them for your "Women's Studies" hate training class. The truth is what we deal with here.
Hey Bob Allen.
I have a post that I wrote on my blog about the blue gun thugs that you might want to read.
The Blue Gun Thugs
The US is set to create a new law enforcement agency, the Office of the United States Intellectual Property Enforcement Representative (USIPER). They also feel that the authorities need the authority to seize any computers used for infringement and to send copyright cops abroad to help other countries enforce US laws.
The fastest growing sector in the US economy seems to be law enforcement. I see the "become a law enforcement officer" ads everywhere, they compete with the pharmaceutical ads.
We don't have the military weapons nessacary to resist these people because said weapons are illegal (in violation of the second ammendment) so what do we do?
This is almost like the soviet union, not quite yet but close, and worse the the USSR ever was when it comes to Men's Rights.
We live in a slave state and we NEVER will take ANY action against our opressors. It will never happen. You don't do anythign, I don't do anything, none of us do.
http://slashdot.org/firehose.pl?op=view&id=414687
http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/07/12/10/1522241.shtml
Note to anonymous;
There is indeed a war going on, and people are getting killed on both sides, albeit mostly free men getting killed. Shooting back is pretty much suicidal, but more and more men are becoming desperate enough to be suicidal in the counter attacks.
The gynocratic police state hates the Internet because they can't control our thoughts and minds. We may even talk about the war for freedom unless we advocate fighting their violent oppression in which case they identify and destroy the free man who spoke out.
It is a lot like the 1950s movies with the French or Polish underground resistance fighter hiding a radio under the floorboards. We are coming to a place where our computers have to be kept hidden, and our accounts going satelite direct through scramblers to get out. The evil government and their Gestapo storm troopers in blue suits are searching for us all the time.
Once in a while someone takes out a member of their power elite. Bob wrote and article a while back about a Federal Persecutor in Seattle who was taken out. The FBI is powerless and powerless to actually solve a real crime so nobody has ever been caught. What they are able to do is to assassinate any man who goes to the Federal Court house in protest and asks to speak with the judges. When a group assembled to protest blue gun thug violence, they are beaten and caged by a mob of goose stepping Gestapo in blue suits. Even walking down the street minding your own business can get a man beaten, shot, and caged.
At this time, armed resistance has to be secret or suicidal. But more and more men are turning away from their hate and lies, and toward freedom. I would predict that a total collapse of the current system will happen a lot sooner than they ever expect. A lot of them are scared of it already.
[All posts of Bob are rhetorical in nature only, and should not be construed in any other manner. Bob does not advocate insurrection, sedition, murder, violence, assault, or any other criminal or illegal acts.]
I was recently selected to "interview" for jury duty in Indiana. I was not chosen. However, I was surprised to learn, that juries in Indiana can now ask questions of the witnesses. They have to sunbmit the questions in writing to the judge, ans get his approval.
The Dumb Ass Women in the Women's movement would be surprised to learn that Women in the Past before Feminism were Doctors, Lawyers, Shop Keepers. One of the First Medals of Honor was awarded to A Woman Doctor during the Civil War.
Feminists ignore the real history. Women due to economic progress were able to stay at Home during the 1950s after the era of Rosie the Riveter. Who helped to build Tanks, Jeeps, Halftracks and other War Implements when there was a Shortage of Men. Due to the Men being deployed overseas fighting the Axis.
In my family Three family members were killed in WW2. Out of 7 Brothers Three gave their lives. Yes Women are the oppressed Gender. Remind yourself that the next time you visit a US Military Cemetary. What BS.
Man kills 2 year old stepdaughter:
http://www.star-telegram.com/news/story/357309.html
Seems Mr. Zeigler helped his wife beat the child to death with a belt, whilst banging her skull against the floor and holding her under water.
The man felt his actions were a reasonable disciplinary response, given that the little girl wouldn't call him "sir" and act mannerly.
Note to anonymous:
That is another tragic example of the fruits of feminist destruction of families. Single mothers are the most likely to abuse and murder children, and their latest fuck is second most likely. This unfortunate little girl was taken away from her FATHER who would have loved and protected her.
How many children will die before people learn that feminism has destroyed too many families and killed too many children?
"This unfortunate little girl was taken away .."
You meant, little cunt
Girl saves Mother's life:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071217/ap_on_re_us/mother_s_defender
Note to anonymous:
That is another tragic example of the fruits of feminist destruction of families. Single mothers are the most likely to abuse and murder children, and their latest fuck is second most likely. This unfortunate little girl was taken away from her FATHER who would have loved and protected her.
This unfortuntate little girl was deprived of her father's love and protection by a mother who chose to go whoring with gangbanger and drug dealers instead of living a decent moral life raising her daughter in a decent family. Feminism and the whore who put her daughter in danger are to blame for so many destroyed children.
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