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Bob Allen is a philosopher and cyber libertarian. He advocates for the basic human rights of men. Bob has learned to cut through the political nonsense, the propaganda hate, the surface discourse, and talk about the underlying metamessage that the front is hiding. Bob tells it like it is and lets the chips fall where they may. If you like what you read be sure to bookmark this blog and share it with your friends.

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You can't make wrong into right by doing wrong more effectively. It's time for real MEN to stand up and take back our families, our society, and our self respect. It is not a crime to be born a man. It is not a crime to act manly.

Tuesday, February 12, 2008

Social change isn't made with tempered voices

Glenn Sacks published his February 12 newsletter today. In his lead article he reports that Darren Mack was sentenced to life in prison for wasting his ex and attempting to kill the agent of Satan in black robes of hell who had destroyed his life. Before shooting the agent of Satan Mack had his ability to earn his living taken away by function of the illegal VAWA prohibition on ownership of arms after being served with a "DV" restraining order. Mack's living had been earned as owner of a pawn shop dealing in used guns and ammunition. He was out of business. At the same time the evil agent of Satan ordered Mack to pay continuing slave payments to his ex, payments based on the income which he was prevented from earning. Mack stood up and acted manly. He offed the bitch and went after the agent of Satan. His biggest mistake was using a small caliber weapon (.223) to attempt a shot through the agent of Satan's window. Small high speed rounds are easily deflected by glass. As a gun dealer Mack should have known better and used something like 30-06 to finish off the agent of Satan. Instead he chose the "modern" .223 rifle and the agent of Satan survived. That was a shame.

In June, 2006, Darren Mack was the recipient of the coveted Golden Bull Award for his heroism and bravery in the face of the enemies of men. Read How Many Families has Weller Desoryed, One Too Many.

In today's column Glenn Sacks applauds the life in prison sentence for Mack. He also repeats his criticism of real men who have continued to applaud Mack for his bold and forthright manly action against the evil enemies of men. Sack's criticism of men's activists displays a growing gulf in the Men's Movement. A few men are speaking out loudly against the veil empire of the state oppression of men, while "moderate" men like Sacks continue the "reasonable" discussion that has resulted in ratchet success by feminists for 170 years. See Pink Panseys Race to Condemn Mack

Another clue to the difference between the moderate voices like Sacks and the growing number of manly voices is found farther down the same column. Glenn quotes NOW-NY President Marcia Pappas, "Social Change isn't made with tempered voices." In the Men's Movement, Glenn Sacks is the tempered voice. He criticizes men who refuse to temper our voices. We are the voices for change while Glenn and his tempered compatriots are agents for continued feminist achievements. We will not be tempered. We will not shut up and go away. Glenn Sacks and his "hoard" needs to read is own f'ing column and get a clue. Social change is not made with tempered voices.

She concludes with a common feminist adage, "Well behaved women rarely make history." The same is true for well behaved men. History is the account of those who are not well behaved. The men's movement will get exactly nowhere on the backs of men who are well behaved.

From Glenn's Feb 12, 2008 newsletter, "Social change isn't made with tempered voices."

From Glen Sacks
Darren Mack Gets Life Sentence; Major Spanish Political Party Calls for Lower Taxes for Women
February 12, 2008

Justice Is Served: Darren Mack Gets Life Sentence
Background: In June 2006, Darren Mack (pictured), a wealthy Nevada father who was involved in a divorce, stabbed his estranged wife to death and then executed a well-planned murder attempt on a Nevada judge. Mack shot and wounded the judge but failed to kill him. According to the Reno Gazette-Journal, when police searched Mack's residence they found he "had bombmaking materials in his bedroom" as well as "several boxes of firearm ammunition." At the time of Mack’s murder spree, I wrote:

“I condemn without qualification the crimes allegedly committed by Darren Mack in Nevada last week. Mack was angered by his divorce and custody case. Some on the not insubstantial lunatic fringe of the fathers' rights movement see Mack as some sort of freedom fighter. Most of the commentary by other fathers' rights advocates seem to be of the ‘he couldn't take it anymore and snapped’ variety.

“I don't buy it. Though everyone is focusing on Mack's attempted murder of a judge, everyone seems to forget that he first stabbed and killed his estranged wife. After murdering her, he shot the judge through the judge's third-floor office window with a sniper rifle from over 100 yards away. That's not ‘snapping’--that's premeditated murder. Mack is not a good man trapped in a bad system. He is a bad guy. Because of men like him the system had to create protections for women,

It wasn't the rope and a tree that Darren Mack deserved, but it was close enough. Friday Darren Mack--who stabbed and killed his estranged wife as his little daughter played with her toys upstairs--was sentenced to life in prison.

Mack first tried what I called the Mary Winkler defense, making the unlikely claim that he slashed his wife's throat in self-defense. How Mack defending himself against Charla necessitated then driving to the courthouse and trying to kill a judge in a well-planned, methodical way was never explained.

Douglas Herndon, the Nevada judge in the criminal case, explained that he let Mack speak for quite a while before his sentencing, and that Mack expressed "no remorse" for his crimes. According to the Associated Press:

"In handing down the sentence, Herndon cited the heinous nature of the crimes and Mack's lack of remorse.

"'The truth is Mr. Mack is guilty of these crimes, but he doesn't want to hear anything about that,' the judge said.

"Mack on Thursday reiterated claims that he acted in self defense when he slashed his wife's throat in the garage of his southeast Reno townhouse.

"He also has argued that he was coerced by his former lawyers into the plea deal, and suggested the attorneys, prosecutors, investigators and law enforcement officers who investigated the case were corrupt.

"Herndon said while he allowed Mack to go on at length, he never said what the judge hoped he'd hear: 'I'm sorry.'"

My position on Mack has inspired a lot of hostility from some posters on other men's and fathers' rights blogs, which tells you more about some of these guys than you'd like to know. One of the many idiotic statements made is that, based on my position on Mack, when fathers are mistreated in the family law system, I don't think they should resist.


Here is the letter from NOW-NY President. Men need to learn from their experience and stop being "temperate."

Social change isn't made with tempered voices
Albany Times-Union, February 7, 2008

My response to Kathleen Parker's Feb. 3 criticism of the Jan. 28 NOW-NYS press release (and while I am at it, my response to anyone who believes I should have kept my mouth shut about Sen. Ted Kennedy's endorsement of Barack Obama), I say the following:

Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, Sojourner Truth, Alice Paul and most other feminist leaders had their critics, even within their own movement.

There will always be those who speak their truths and, on the other hand, those who temper their voices to please others. I am not the latter.

Anyone who knows me knows that I, along with my NOW-NYS organization, will continue to speak the truth without apology.

No social change was ever made by those who compromise their beliefs.[/b]

If the great activists of the suffrage movement had listened to their more timid "temper your voices" sisters and brothers, women would still not have birth control, abortion, or the right to vote. Indeed: "Well-behaved women rarely make history."

MARCIA A. PAPPAS
President NOW-NYS
Albany



Glenn Sacks has been the tempered voice throughout the whole Mack affair and trial. Glenn continues to be the tempered voice on many other men's issues. In this issue Glenn again condemns other men's advocates who are not so tempered and demand change in a loud voice. But Glenn even quotes the real wisdom of the disagreement in the community of men's advocates. "Social change isn't made with tempered voices."

For more than a century feminists have demanded change in loud, shrill, offensive voices while men have been polite, reasonable, and losing. A tempered voice gets lost and his cause gets ignored. NOW President Marcia Pappas understands that you have to be loud and untempered to make social changes. A few men's blogs and men's advocates have figured it out. We no longer will be cowed into being polite, being tempered. We will speak our truth loud and untempered, and we will demand change from the feminist dominated police state under which Darren Mack was being destroyed. Mack had been crucified by the evil police state. His right to earn a living was taken away even while he was ordered to pay huge slavery payments to his ex. He was headed straight to debtor's prison for being unable to pay the evil female who destroyed his family.

Come on Glenn, read you own column and learn from the successful NOW advocates you quote. Men are demanding social change, and we aren't going to get it with tempered voices. Read your own column Glenn. It's right there. We MEN can't make social change with tempered voices.

23 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"His biggest mistake was using a small caliber weapon (.223) to attempt a shot through the agent of Satan's window."
Well said.

To those who'll insist that he's evil, and deserves to be locked up, think about what actually happened. Even if we forget about the money, and the rights stolen from him, she took away his child. If you don't think your child is important enough to kill for, you shouldn't have one.

The current state in this society is one of "men" being required to raise whichever children their wives bring with them, while their own children are forcibly removed by the whims of other women. This state is not compatible with the most basic aspects of the human mind. We'll bite our tongues to a point, but that point is rapidly approaching.

Most men try to make themselves believe that Mr. Mack's actions were evil because they're told that everyone else believes they are. As more of these incidents happen, more men will stop feigning outrage. To those men, I'll repeat Bob's suggestion: 30-06.

February 12, 2008 12:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For Christ's sake, what is it with these guys using girly weapons and or running out of ammo - Haven't they ever seen 'Dirty Harry'?

And if they're going to commit murder then why stop with just the ex and the judge - Didn't they see 'Heat' (the first murder gets you life so all the rest are freebies)?

The only way I can explain all these half assed attempts at whack jobs is that the kind of men who are man enough to do it right were either smart enough to never get married in the first place or if they did, they were smart enough to find a good woman.

February 12, 2008 1:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Should Khaled Hosseini die?
khaledhosseini.com

Khaled Hosseini is the author of the novels The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splended suns. In both he champions the plight of women in afganistan.

Should he die?

February 12, 2008 8:17 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you think of this girl:
Posted by Abhishek T | December 19, 2007 10:38 PM

Posted on December 19, 2007 22:38
jess_jamila:

Dear Mr. Sir,
As a 13-year-old girl, your books have become the single most important thing in my life. Late on a saturday night, as I turned that last page, my life's goal became to teach in Afghanistan. Oh, sir, thankyou for writing it and for giving me purpose!

When are you doing a book signing in Australia??

Sincellery (ha,ha)
JESS (Jamila is my Afghan name)

February 12, 2008 8:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is your opinion on this: http://www.armedfemalesofamerica.com/

February 12, 2008 9:39 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note on armed females:
Its nice to see some females supporting the 2nd Amendment, however the 2nd Amendment does not apply to them. The "militia" is the armed MEN who have been called upon to defend our nation. Females are not fighters in the regular army, and not militia.

February 13, 2008 7:47 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

RE: Khaled Hosseini
I am not familiar with Hosseini, but from the brief bio that I've read he sounds like a socialist UN mangina. Winning 2 Nobel "peace" prizes shows just how far left/feminist he has gone. Whether he need killing or not is something I cannot say, having limited knowledge of his writings and activities.

February 13, 2008 7:58 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

RE: 13 you Afghan girl.
Young twits from any country are easily led astray. This young female needs a good husband and a good life instead of leftist propaganda education. She's being taught to waste her life in typical socialist/feminist fashion.

February 13, 2008 8:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Khaled Hosseini has written two books: The Kite Runner and A Thousand Splended Suns.

The plot of the latest book, 1k mother fucking suns, is as follows:

Man with 3 wives has bastard daughter (though... really I'm not sure if it even matters if daughters are legit or not, in good societies only men aquire inheritance) with maid servant, builds a hut for her, visits daugher (miriam), later spurns her when she comes to his own house, then when her mother dies he marrys miriam off at 15 yrs old to a shoemaker friend/realitive of his that is 40 years old.

The shoemaker is unhappy that miriam miscarries and punches her in the face all the time from then on because, you know, that makes her prettier and him happier.

Then there is a 14 yr old girl who is described basically as very pretty. Her father believes she should not marry for a long time and instead study in school and he is happy that the communists did "one thing right": they educate females (60 percent of afghan's college peeps at that time are women... just like america today! as per the novel). This man is shown as a "good person" he also has his daugher dress fairly modern (no covering hair etc).

Then by the grace of cool people someone RPGs his house. He and his wife DIE!!!!!! But the girl, lilah, is nursed back to health by the shoemaker and his wife. The lilah girl before loved a cripple named Tajikistan and is pregnant with his child (Asaberjanjan). The shoemaker (who apparently looks like STALIN (coarse grey hair)) pays someone to tell the girl that her lover is DEAD, so she agrees to marry THE MAN OF STEEL (Stalin/shoemaker).

She has baby, Stalin doesn't treat the child well because it's a girl (but it, and lilah, is apparently smarter then the men/boys). Then he impregnates lilah (his second wife) again (how dare he!). She considers aborting it using a bike wheel spoke and the book suggests that this would be OK for her to do... but she takes the "high road" and decideds not to kill new baby. New baby is a boy and STALIN (MAN OF STEEL) loves the boy and treats him great.

Later both wives try to run away and seek the help of a "afghan man who seemed nice". He turns them in. The females are returend to their husband because they are his possesions.

He imprisons them in a shed for awhile and beats them.

After this he punches lilah in the face everyday because it just helps her be prettier.

Later Lilah punches him back one day and she feels great about it, he puts a gun in her mouth.

Later still Lilah meets Tajikastan (who came to the house after all these years), Stalin get's angry and responds by starting to choke her (Lilah), her "sister wife" miram then murders Stalin with a shover.

All of Georgia weeps for their beloved.

Miram is executed by the taliban with an AK-47 bullet straight through the skull...
SLOWLY.

Lilah and the children and Tajikistan (who she finds) leave for PaKiStaN

The husband dead, the women suffering through life.

Through the book we are assured that Lilah is smoking fucking hot, like DAMN you wish you were Stalin!1

So. what should happen to KM for writing this book?

February 13, 2008 10:29 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Thousand_Splendid_Suns

February 13, 2008 10:30 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous;
While the writing of Khaled Hosseini is patently offensive bigotry and hate, I generally don't advocate killing of people for writing offensive material. The contribution to hate of every book seller, promoter, the UN, the Nobel Committee, and others is equally as offenisve. It will take a whole general uprising to clean out the large number of filthy scum who promote and distribute that kind of misandrist hate material.

Break out Lady G. She's got a ton of work to do.

February 13, 2008 11:05 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate that the author (Kalhed) portrays females of childbearing age marrying an older/middle aged man as Bad.

It's like he want's young men to marry so they can be forever harnessed by the wife, where an older man wouldn't take any crap from a girl (which is why he's against such marraige).

You know there are so may islamic terror groups from that area. Why have no anti-feminist groups of a similar type not come about? Why do none strike in the heart of darkness (for men), the west?

We western men will never do anything, to do anything would be to be a traitor to the west. The west is women's rights.

February 13, 2008 1:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joyful news for Bob, Mikee et al.:

Therapist hacked to death in her New York office by an irate man (patient):

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2008/02/13/2008-02-13_savage_cleaver_murder_was_carefully_plan.html


There is video tape of the man exiting the building. No positive ID yet. He planned the attack carefully... crazy as a fox,

February 13, 2008 5:58 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
Bob once had the misfortune to have a connection to a shrink like that. She convinced 100% of her "relationship" clients to divorce their husbands and destroy their families. I suspect that Ms. Kathryn Faughey had been working to destroy families and had hurt hundreds of men, women, and children. She had likely driven many men to suicide. Some MAN is cleaning up the neighborhood.

February 13, 2008 6:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Without really knowing the murdered Dr. Faughey, we cannot be sure what she advocated.

February 14, 2008 5:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question: on this blog, why are men refered to "men" but women are referred to as "females"?

February 15, 2008 3:24 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to anonymous:
Three generations of feminist schoolmarms have taught "males" as a disrespectful term for MEN. The term "males" is taught by feminists because it reduced men to brute animals. Common usage these days is often "women and males." You see it everywhere, often in the same sentence.

On The World According to Bob, Bob has reversed the gender of the feminazi hate teaching. I see that you don't care for it much. Boo Hoo.

February 15, 2008 3:56 PM  
Blogger Masculist Man said...

Miram is executed by the taliban with an AK-47 bullet straight through the skull...
SLOWLY.


Just how is this done?

February 15, 2008 5:36 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to Masculist Man:
I wondered that myself. AK-47 rounds generally are pretty fast.

I guess when a misandrist liar is writing hate crap, the feminaazi readers have no clue. It must sound mean to the clueless.

February 15, 2008 6:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob, MM: really the execution is drawn out in the story. Enter stadium (this takes many lines of prose), look around (more time), guy with gun comes up tells her to go to soccer stadium, slowly walks there, recounts life, then you think he's going to kill her... and he tell her to kneel, more recounting of life etc.

It was like a 15 min execution on autobook.
Could have been a whole chapter.

February 15, 2008 7:25 PM  
Blogger Masculist Man said...

Anonymous February 15, 2008 7:25 PM,

I was refering to the execution itself. If one were to implement psychological torture as well then it can last for a long time,for as long as the executioner wishes.

February 16, 2008 6:53 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is simple, provoke a man too much and he will snap on day and hurt or kill you. These women watch too much tv and see women slapping men and throwing drinks in mens face and getting away with it, when they try it they face the consequencies in real life. They think that they can hit and hit on men and do all kinds of things to hurt and provoke men as if men are their beating sticks men and then smile and walk away in one piece, well, not all the time.

March 10, 2008 11:12 AM  
Blogger Lincoln said...

Tempered voices my ass. Whether your voice is tempered of not, there are some oppressors, like Mack's wife and that judge in the case above, that will never hear no matter how untempered your voice is. When a man is denied justice by the system, he does not just lay down and die, he tend to take his own form of into his own hands.

You could talk and talk to these oppressors till your blue in the face trying to show them that what they are doing is wrong, you could warn them, you could shout till your throat is sore, you could write letters till your fingers are tired,they can simply laugh at you and put it on some more.

While Voilence should not be the first resort, it has been used very effectively to make change throughout history. The only thing that these kinds of oppressors will respond to is the bullet fired from a gun, the thrusting blade of a knife or the sweeping blade of a sharp cutlass.

March 19, 2008 9:01 AM  

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