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Bob Allen is a philosopher and cyber libertarian. He advocates for the basic human rights of men. Bob has learned to cut through the political nonsense, the propaganda hate, the surface discourse, and talk about the underlying metamessage that the front is hiding. Bob tells it like it is and lets the chips fall where they may. If you like what you read be sure to bookmark this blog and share it with your friends.

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You can't make wrong into right by doing wrong more effectively. It's time for real MEN to stand up and take back our families, our society, and our self respect. It is not a crime to be born a man. It is not a crime to act manly.

Tuesday, April 22, 2008

Angry Harry Agrees with Bob

Men in the UK have about as many problems as do men in the US. Feminism, with the assistance of badly misandrist government, has been working to destroy families and mess up the lives of children about as long there as here. For the past few years a Men's Advocate named Angry Harry has been a loud on-line voice for MEN. Like a lot of men, Angry Harry has tried to work with the feminist notion of “equality” to find a solution for our destroyed families. Unfortunately for our families, the more a man tries to work with feminism, the more he finally realizes that feminism is destructive, it does not provide answers that will work for our families.

After years of being one of the voices for “shared parenting” and other nonsense, Angry Harry has come around to realize that old dog Men's Rights Advocates like Bob and others have been right all along. Joint custody and "equal parenting" will not save our families. The only way to save families is to return to "Father Knows Best." Any of the so-called "equal rights" in families have and will always be destructive to families and children.

Angry Harry now agrees with Bob and old Men's Rights activists. Fathers must rule Families. Rule by fathers is the social system that has worked for all of human history before feminism, and still is the only social system that provides the most good for the most families.

We Men need to do as Harry and Bob now suggests, work toward the goal of restoring Father's rule of our families. Here is what Angry Harry has to say about fathers and families:

From ANGRY HARRY 4-21-08

For years and years I had racked my brains in an attempt to figure out what could be done in order to promote the greatest sense of well-being for both men and women when it comes to their relationships - probably the most important aspect of their lives - an aspect which, quite clearly, spills out to affect hugely the rest of society.

I kept going round in circles - up convoluted pathways that either seemed to lead nowhere, or along pathways that were likely to make matters even worse.

And I had argued till I was blue in the face with some of the old-time MRAs - and I do mean old! - over what so many of them were constantly advocating - something which I simply could not bring myself to accept - but, some time ago, I became convinced that they were probably right all along, and that all my various alternative schemes were fairly hopeless.
(Nothing new there!)

Quite simply, all my convoluted notions ended up failing miserably somewhere along the line; whereas their solution was very simple and, if you followed the various pathways that stemmed from it, it seemed mostly to lead to an enormous amount of good.

It is this.

Fathers are in charge. Full stop.

And if the marriage breaks down, the woman leaves.

And she leaves everything.

The fathers are responsible for any children. They are responsible for their welfare and for their behavior.

And unless the circumstances are dire - nobody has the right to interfere with what they decide.

And that's it. Problem solved.

It all sounds really draconian and unfair, doesn't it?

But if you think deeply about the strengths, the weaknesses, the natures and the predilections of men and women, and of how they tend to relate to each other, to their families and to the world outside, this draconian solution does seem to pan out rather well. And it seems likely to generate the minimum of problems both for individuals and for society as a whole.
Well, is it likely that western societies will actually adopt such a solution in the near future?

Nope: Not a hope in Hell, would be my guess.

But, in my view, MRAs should keep this solution in mind, and continually try to head the world in this direction.

The arguments that support such a solution could gradually win the day but they will not win the day right now; because the western world has been indoctrinated with the view that women are entitled to do whatever they want to do.

But, bit by bit, my guess is that even most women will begin to see that there are many advantages for them and for society if men are put firmly in charge of their families.

And so, in the future, for example, should any woman start complaining about the fact that her husband is 'abusive' in some way then other women might turn round and say, "Then leave him," or "You should have got to know him properly before you got married."

Indeed, I already get the sense that many women are already fed up with having to fund through the tax system those thousands of feckless women who seem to bear offspring at the drop of a hat. And they also seem to be fairly angry about the fact that many of the fathers of these children are nowhere to be seen.

Putting the fathers in charge and making them responsible would seem to address such problems - as well as many others.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

About darn time, AH.

April 22, 2008 7:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Most men abuse power and it is men who must be monitored and at times, restrained.

April 23, 2008 5:27 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this seems perfectly reasonable for cases when the woman initiates divorce.

But what about the cases where the woman stays at home to support the children and the man initiates the divorce? What should she do?

I'm very interested in the idea that children belong naturally with fathers - since in most of nature, it's usually the females of the species who raise the children. Aren't women naturally nurturers and care-givers? Aren't their proclivities more suited to raising children? What do you think?

April 24, 2008 9:38 AM  
Blogger Bob said...

Anonymous squealed, “this seems perfectly reasonable for cases when the woman initiates divorce.”

Bob’s response: That covers more than 90% of the cases. Lets solve the major problems first.

Anonymous squealed, “But what about the cases where the woman stays at home to support the children and the man initiates the divorce? What should she do?”

Bob’s response: First, she should not be such a whining shrew to drive off her husband. If she fails at that, the husband should keep the kids and the family assets when he tosses her out.

Anonymous squealed, “I'm very interested in the idea that children belong naturally with fathers - since in most of nature, it's usually the females of the species who raise the children. Aren't women naturally nurturers and care-givers? Aren't their proclivities more suited to raising children? What do you think?”

Bob’s response: That feminist fiction that mothers are more suited to raising children is belied by the massive failure of mother headed homes. Children raised by mothers instead of fathers make up most criminals, most whores, most failures at life. Many species in nature, such as elephants, have severe problems without the old bulls around to teach the next generation. The successful societies across human history understood that a successful society relies on the wisdom of its fathers to raise its children.

If we want our children to succeed, and our society to succeed, fathers must be restored to leadership of our families.

April 24, 2008 9:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck the women and what they want. We are men. We must care about ourselves first. If our want's are bad for women who gives a fuck? Women don't care about men. We should not care about women. We should do what we want.

April 24, 2008 10:06 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Children fail as much, or more, with many male-headed homes. Adolf Hitler had such a father - the male tyrant of the 19th century.

April 24, 2008 3:30 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to the fat anonymous sow: (April 24, 2008 3:30 PM)
Your femiNazi fiction is trumped by massive research data. Children from father headed homes do much better, on average, than those who are condemned to female failure homes. The statistical difference is so severe that female failure homes should be classified as child abuse.

April 24, 2008 3:37 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The Case for Father Custody" by Daniel Amneus is THE resource for studying this issue. It's available for downloading online.


April 24, 2008 3:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bob surely had a father-headed upbringing, and thus is successful.

Doubtless his own children are successful adults, having had Bob as male head of house.

April 24, 2008 5:45 PM  
Blogger Bob said...


April 24, 2008 5:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

" First, she should not be such a whining shrew to drive off her husband"


It is completely illogical to assume that all wives in troubled marriages, fit that description. Clearly there could be other factors. There is usually blame to go around.

Sometimes outside factors put such stress on the marriage that it begins to crumble. For example, parents with a severely handicapped child sometimes lose ability to cope. Or a teen who requires repeated psychiatric hospitalizations, commits suicide, drives parents apart in their grief.

Or the drinking, drugs, gambling of either husband or wife can destroy the marriage.

April 24, 2008 7:36 PM  
Blogger Bob said...

Note to readers:
The above anonymous whining shrew is a demonstration of why Angry Harry and Bob are so right about marriage and family.

April 24, 2008 8:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The above anonymous whining shrew"

Why label that "whining shrew" ?

April 27, 2008 3:04 PM  
Anonymous Anon, Seattle, USA said...

I can't say I agree entirely with you Bob. But you are right that UK men are facing as many problems as US men, or so I gather.

What do you think about MikeeUSA's outrageous statement that Captain MRA is a woman. It's impossible. I've checked his avatar and it definitely says he's a man. Silly, silly, Mikee.

May 17, 2008 8:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That'll work the same way dictatorship works better then democracy, it's more efficient but not the right course.

It it's a head of the house that's needed why not the woman? don't like that? I didn't think so. This is what the feminist movement is about.

If you want to keep your wife subdued and she's okay with that, well, go right ahead. but it is not wise to blame women for a shared fault.

It's not that single mothers are whores it is that they are perceived as such.

Maybe people should just care about people; regardless of gender... this is starting to sound like a movement I know...

Comparing women to animals simply because they are women is not a very good way to show education on the matter.... and since when is stating facts considered whining?

July 05, 2008 8:48 PM  

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